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May 22, 2025 at 3:11 pm #43857
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ParticipantGood Afternoon,
Transcriber Daniel Sullivan has 3 questions to be submitted for you to review.
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You must be logged in to view attached files.June 19, 2025 at 11:12 am #43968kdejute
ModeratorThank you so much for sharing these questions!
June 19, 2025 at 11:46 am #43969kdejute
ModeratorFirst, let's tackle the Dot Locator for "Use" (RUEB2024 §3.14)
I agree, the fourth paragraph in GTM 4.1 Spatial calculations (quoted below) gives us guidance regarding blank lines in relation to the numeric passage indicator or terminator that we simply do not have regarding blank lines in relation to grade 1 indicators, capitalized passage indicators, or their respective terminators.
The line above and below spatial calculations should either be blank, or should only contain the numeric passage indicator or terminator.
I would advocate for your #2 example, where you have replaced the blank lines around displayed material with a line that contains only the grade 1 passage indicator and a line that contains only the grade 1 terminator. For our convenience, I have attempted to recreate that example below.
⠼⠊⠲⠀⠠⠔⠙⠊⠉⠁⠞⠑⠀⠞⠗⠥⠑⠀⠕⠗⠀⠋⠁⠇⠎⠑⠒
⠐⠐⠿⠰⠰⠰
⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠠⠎⠐⠖⠠⠕⠢⠼⠃⠀⠳⠕⠀⠠⠎⠠⠕⠢⠼⠃⠀⠳⠬
⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠠⠓⠠⠉⠇⠀⠳⠕⠻⠘⠳⠪⠀⠠⠓⠔⠐⠖⠐⠖⠠⠉⠇⠔⠐⠤
⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠠⠅⠠⠊⠐⠖⠠⠊⠢⠼⠃⠀⠳⠬⠳⠩⠀⠠⠅⠠⠊⠢⠼⠉
⠐⠐⠿⠰⠄
⠀⠀⠠⠁⠲⠀⠠⠞⠗⠥⠑
⠀⠀⠰⠠⠃⠲⠀⠠⠋⠁⠇⠎⠑
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kdejute. Reason: changed ASCII to Unicode, with goal of retaining spaces at beginning of lines
June 19, 2025 at 12:08 pm #43971kdejute
ModeratorSecond, I very much sympathize with your question about, "How should we format formal proofs (and other labeled statements) in UEB Math/Science transcriptions?"
In short, Braille Formats is our formatting guide for anything not covered in RUEB, GTM, or BANA's "Provisional Guidance for Transcribing Mathematics in UEB."
One covered issue that is related to formal proofs comes from the "Provisional Guidance for Transcribing Mathematics in UEB." The first paragraph in #3 of that document says the following.
For technical materials, use margins 3-1; do not use blocked paragraphs. If the entire textbook is in blocked paragraphs, note the change to indented paragraphs in a TN.
So, in a UEB Math/Science transcription, we would probably format the print of "Example 26-73: Theorem with Auxiliary Captions" of The Nemeth Code as follows.
⠀⠀⠘⠂⠠⠮⠕⠗⠑⠍⠀⠘⠂⠼⠙⠲⠀⠠⠊⠋⠀⠞⠺⠕⠀⠇⠔⠑⠎⠀⠜⠑⠀⠉⠥⠞⠀⠃⠽
⠁⠀⠞⠗⠁⠝⠎⠧⠻⠎⠁⠇⠀⠯⠀⠁⠀⠏⠁⠊⠗⠀⠷⠀⠁⠇⠞⠻⠝⠁⠞⠑⠀⠔⠞⠻⠊⠕⠗
⠁⠝⠛⠇⠑⠎⠀⠜⠑⠀⠑⠟⠥⠁⠇⠂⠀⠮⠀⠞⠺⠕⠀⠇⠔⠑⠎⠀⠜⠑⠀⠏⠜⠁⠇⠇⠑⠇⠲
⠀⠀⠨⠂⠠⠛⠊⠧⠢⠒⠀⠠⠇⠔⠑⠎⠀⠰⠠⠠⠁⠃⠀⠯⠀⠰⠠⠠⠉⠙⠀⠉⠥⠞⠀⠃⠽
⠞⠗⠁⠝⠎⠧⠻⠎⠁⠇⠀⠠⠠⠗⠎⠀⠁⠞⠀⠏⠕⠔⠞⠎⠀⠰⠠⠑⠀⠯⠀⠰⠠⠋
⠗⠑⠎⠏⠑⠉⠞⠊⠧⠑⠇⠽⠆⠀⠸⠪⠭⠀⠐⠶⠀⠸⠪⠽⠲
⠀⠀⠨⠂⠠⠞⠕⠀⠨⠂⠠⠏⠗⠕⠧⠑⠒⠀⠰⠰⠰⠠⠠⠁⠃⠀⠼⠇⠀⠠⠠⠉⠙⠲⠰⠄
June 19, 2025 at 12:18 pm #43972kdejute
ModeratorThird and last, even when dealing with chemical notation that requires grade one indication past the 3rd cell in an expression, a transcriber should use a grade one word indicator instead of a grade one symbol indicator.
That's what it says in #5 in BANA's "Provisional Guidance for Transcribing Mathematics in UEB."
Unless a math expression can be correctly represented with only a grade 1 symbol indicator in the first three cells or before a single letter standing alone anywhere in the expression, begin the expression with a grade 1 word indicator (or a passage indicator if the expression includes spaces).
[Will the final (i.e., not provisional) version of BANA guidance say the same thing? I believe it will say something different. But, for now, we should follow what is published.]
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