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Chris Clemens
KeymasterShould have attached the braille sample in Braille2000 since not everyone has MegaDots.
Chris Clemens
KeymasterI should have attached a copy of the graph, sorry. I’ve included a scan of the graph and how I brailled it.
Chris Clemens
KeymasterWould it be possible for you to attach a copy of your illustration? What type of graph are you working with? If it is a vertical bar graph, the bars could probably all be moved over closer to the vertical axis. Depending on the type of graph, this may not be possible. At the present time, the guidelines for graphs suggest that the label for the horizontal axis be aligned with the first value (which, as you suggested, is “none”). There are no definitive rules for tactile graphics, just guidelines, and each graphic must be considered individually as to what works best. Sometimes even the overall size of the graphic will make a difference in how I handle it.
Hope this helps … if not, it would still be good to see a copy of the image in order for me to assist you.
Thanks for posting your question.Betty
Chris Clemens
KeymasterI think you must follow the format provided in the Ancient Numeration Systems addendum for the construction of the fractions, since it offers specific directions. Rather than change that format, perhaps it would be better to insert a tn explaining that in braille the upper symbol is given first followed by the whole number as shown beneath it.
Chris Clemens
KeymasterHi Jade,
That is a GREAT question. Thanks for sending it. At this time, this issue is not directly addressed in any published rules. It is addressed, however, in the upcoming Foreign Language rules and I’ll be glad to give you the BANA-approved recommendation here. This is only a recommendation because the rule isn’t published yet and theoretically it could be changed by the time it does get published.
The braille you transcribe is considered correct at the time of transcription. If this rule is changed in some way by the time it’s published, you (and everyone else!) will follow that changed new rule. Either way, you are correct.
Foreign languge braille issues are now commonplace in non-foreign language textbooks, like math, science and social studies. Glossary sections are typically translated to Spanish and there are these parent letters in Spanish as well, found in many textbooks of various subjects.
You are correct. Braille this parent letter entirely in Spanish with the Spanish braille symbols and rules, including the special symbols listing for the accented letters and the inverted question mark and exclamation point, if used in the text.
Braille the Nemeth text according to code as straight math, the way you normally would. Anything here that’s not Nemeth, that you would do in English if it were English, do in Spanish. You may encounter overlapping symbols, that is Spanish symbols that also mean something in the Nemeth context and vice versa, Nemeth symbols also used in Spanish. Ignore this and just use the correct symbols in both situations. The reader will get the meaning by context. No TN.
–Joanna
Chris Clemens
KeymasterWould you mind sharing your solution?
Chris Clemens
KeymasterDorothy, I figured it out. Thanks anyway.
LauraChris Clemens
KeymasterHi Joanna…and thanks for your reply. I am kind of confused with the spanish braille…i am ok transcribing it…and i do it in all uncontracted braille. I use DBT…so that does most of the work for me. But my student is trying to get her braillenote to print out the accent marks etc. when she prints it out for teacher correction. We figured out how to get the accent marks, but the other marks don’t seem to all work. I think we will try it again, and i will give you exact examples of what we are having trouble with. I’m so glad you might be able to help me…i’ve been searching.
Thanks Joanna,
dianeChris Clemens
KeymasterThank you!
Deb
Chris Clemens
KeymasterHi, Dan,
Start with the knowledge that I am not a pianist. I always try to show things in the simplest possible way, and what I think is simple sometimes does not seem so to a pianist. Here’s how I would handle this passage, as long as it ts not a facsimile transcription. I went back to Appendix C of the old De Garmo for inspiration, but did not find an exactly parallel illustration.
Since the pianist is clearly not to wait until the end of the duration of the eighth note to start the “grace notes,” I think an in-accord starting with a “grace-rest” is necessary. I’d show the opening eighth note and two dot-5 eighth rests in the first side of the I-A. In the second side, I’d show the grace-rest, the opening bracket slur and all of the grace notes. I’d use the measure-division sign to end that line (the RH part will be similarly divided, with an I-A. In the next parallel, I’d simply end the bracket slur after the eighth note A. I don’t think any concidence signs are necessary. I really don’t see any reason to show the beams across the beats except in a facsimile transcription. I’ll try to attach a Brasille2000 copy.
I’d very much like to hear a pianists’s opinion.
Larry
Chris Clemens
KeymasterA survey done by AFB in the 1990’s stated that there was a demand and a shortage. You might wish to contact AFB or NFB or NLS to inquire if there is any current research being done. Because of the various code certifications Math and Music transcribers are probably lower in numbers than literary transcribers, however that is my opinion and I have no numbers to back me up.
Chris Clemens
KeymasterFor those of you wanting DNA examples, I will forward them to you if you send me a private message with your e-mail address. In order to send a private message, make sure that you are signed into the forum, click on my blue, underlined name, (in the first column of one of the Tactile Graphics threads) and then click on Send Private Message (as shown in the attached screenshot below).
In order to check messages that may have been sent to you, click on “my profile” (on the colored bar across the top of the forum) where you will find both an Inbox and a Sent Items.I hope this sufficiently explains the process.
BettyChris Clemens
KeymasterI don’t believe the guidelines direct that Nemeth rules should be altered. When the updated guidelines are completed there may be more detailed instructions about this. Currently, Nemeth Code symbols are not required to be listed on the Special Symbols page, even of K-3 materials. I don’t intend to give any advice about this, except use your own best judgment.
Chris Clemens
KeymasterAll of this is easier to visualize if we have a picture of the print example plus simbraille to look at. I will do my best with the print representation you have included.
d sub f – d sub o/t sub f – t sub o
[braille]?_;d;f”-_;d;o”/t;f”-t;o”#
Delta d/Delta t
[braille]?_.,d_;d/.,dt#
The typeform (bold) for a letter must always be followed by an alphabetic indicator (if the letter is Greek, this would be the Greek letter indicator). You do not also need an English letter indicator when the letter is other than English.
The typeform rule says that boldface type must be preserved when identifying letters as vectors. It is not necessary to also indicate the subscripts as boldface.
Chris Clemens
KeymasterCould I see a picture of the enclosing arrowheads?
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