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Chris Clemens
KeymasterAny arrows in Chemistry that are not listed in section 3 of the Chemistry Code must be transcribed as in Nemeth Code. If you look at Rule XXI–Arrows (Nemeth Code), the construction of a wavy arrow shaft is shown. Your arrow would have a normal right pointing arrowhead.
[braille]$935o
If length is significant, you may extend the shaft length by repeating the arrow-shaft symbol a suitable number of times.
Chris Clemens
KeymasterAny symbols that are part of the Nemeth Code are not required to be listed on the Special Symbols page, even in K-3.
Chris Clemens
KeymasterI’m sorry to be so late in responding. I was depending on email notification that there were questions and that has failed me.
It would help to know what the text looks like when you select it on your calculator. However, this is not text the student would have to enter — it’s a selection. I think I would go with the most readable transcription, which would probably mean putting a space after the colon.
Chris Clemens
KeymasterVery simply, the letter is butted up against the left parenthesis.
Chris Clemens
KeymasterYou have transcribed them correctly. They are matrices, not binomial coefficients.
Chris Clemens
KeymasterHi Diane,
I’m not clear on which book you don’t have. There are two sets of rules here and you need both of them. You need the NBA Interim Manual for Foreign Language Braille Transcribing and information and symbols pertaining to the Computer Braille Code, which can be found in Appendix C.3 of EBAE (English Braille American Edition, 1994 Rev. 2002)
Under BANA rules for braille transcribed in the United States, there is no provision for Spanish computer braille. What is the nature of the material you are transcribing? It would be helpful if you could scan and post some print pages from it. Without having seen your print material, I would say that the Spanish should be done in uncontracted braille with Spanish accented letters and the computer braille text in Computer Braille Code, with all symbols, the Spanish accented letters and the Computer Braille Code symbols listed on the Special Symbols page.
If your post is related to the first post on this question (the name of the person is different) and you’re asking about a “cheat sheet” for a student who is writing in Spanish. all he needs is a list of the Computer Braille Code symbols for the computer text.
Hope this helps. Please let me know if you need any further information.
–Joanna
edited by nbadmin on 5/5/2010Chris Clemens
KeymasterI don’t have that book. Is there a way to find the computer braille i need for spanish braille? Acheat sheet would be great!
Thanks
dianeChris Clemens
KeymasterBetty
I would you email your braille examples to me also? But I don’t know how to send you a private message.
Please would you explain it to me?Chris Clemens
KeymasterI found my answer on page F6 of the Bana 2007 Updates.
Chris Clemens
KeymasterFollow up clarification question:
We read the answer to the first question and we’re still not completely clear on how we should do this. There are 2 things throwing us off: the subscript information and the Greek letters. I’ll start with the Greek.
If the text read delta d in plain text, the Braille would be [Greek letter indicator] [capital indicator] d d. If the delta d is in bold, would the Braille read [bold indicator] [Greek letter indicator] [capital indicator] d [bold indicator] [letter indicator] d? Is another “regular” letter indicator needed as part of the Greek letter or does the Greek letter indicator take place of the “regular” one? Or do you not need the second set of bold and letter indicators because the delta d is read as one letter? Clarification on this would really be appreciated.
We’re also having a problem figuring out how to handle the subscripts and part of our confusion with this stems from the fact that the letter indicator and the subscript indicator are the same. For example, we have v subscript av in bold in the text. From the first answer, we know that the baseline letter should read [bold indicator] [letter indicator] v. Do we need to bold the subscript separately? Or is the subscript considered to be part of the letter that precedes it so the bold would be extended to it? Should the Braille for the subscript read [subscript indicator] [bold indicator] [letter indicator] a [bold indicator] [letter indicator] v? Or can the bold and letter indicators be omitted? Again, clarification would be appreciated.
Thank you for your help!
Chris Clemens
KeymasterI figured it out. No space needed. Thank you anyway:)
Chris Clemens
KeymasterI attached a file which contains 2 questions. This is a WORD file from the science teacher.
Chris Clemens
KeymasterWe have not proceeded with this part of our transcription as we await feedback on our question about whether to add a space after a colon in information about using a graphing calculator. We look forward to your response.
Chris Clemens
KeymasterHi Katrina,
Thank you for the lovely rendition. So clear.
Apparently there are ellipsis and then there are ellipsis. I think that most of the time they are sort of a filler–like “and so forth.” And as you know, unlike English, the foreign language rules specify the print spacing must be followed. This is quite helpful because you don’t have to actually know the purpose of the ellipsis when you don’t know the language. In this case, the ellipsis is clearly associated with the first sentence by being joined to it with no space. There is a clear space in print before the next sentence begins. I believe that second sentence is still part of the this paragraph. If your formatting requires that only a sentence is intact on a braille page, but the paragraph may be continued on a next braille page, go right ahead. That is clearly the next sentence, after the ellipsis. New sentence, same paragraph. Keep the ellipsis as in print, unspaced, with the first sentence. If it won’t fit, I would move that entire first sentence to the next braille page.
Watch out for ellipsis used as blanks to fill in! I’ll use English for purposes of illustration:
I went to to —- park. is sometimes seen as
I went to … park. or
I went to the —-. is seen as
I went to the …
In these cases, substitute the braille double dash. This iis covered in the Interim Manual. Usually there is a pattern of usage in the book that gives you the clues you need.
Hope this helps.
–Joanna
Chris Clemens
KeymasterHi,
Thanks for answering me. I just want to make sure that I understand this correctly.
If I’m reading your answer right, in the first example on the top of the fraction, I would need a [bold indicator], then the [letter indicator], then d sub f – [bold indicator], [letter indicator] d sub o. Is that right?
And for the second fraction, I would need a [bold indicator] delta [letter indicator] d. I don’t think I would need a letter indicator before the delta because that would already have a Greek letter indicator. Is that right? Or do I need another bold indicator after the delta?
I’ve added the brackets just for clarification – they wouldn’t actually be keyed.
Thanks again!
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