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  • in reply to: tables in early elem #20692
    Chris Clemens
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      Tables in first grade math books are done according to Braille Formats and Nemeth Code. So you would use the regular boxing lines (if needed) and the standard column heading separation line. If you are double spacing the book, do not double space in the table.

      in reply to: ISBN or Standard Book Number #20691
      Chris Clemens
      Keymaster

        Hi Becky,

        You can locate the answer to your question in the Instructin Manual for Braille Transcribing, 19.2b(9). 🙂 Please refer to the manual for your answer, as the Certification Manuscript is a test of the rules, guidelines, and formats for Literary Braille.

        I hope this helps!

        Jana

        in reply to: Skeleton Tables #20689
        Chris Clemens
        Keymaster

          This format requires a combination of Braille Formats rules and Nemeth rules. Use normal table format with column headings and separation lines. Limit the skeleton to 2 blank rows. Braille Formats requires a 2-cell dash to indicate the empty spaces. Nemeth requires a general omission indicator. So under your column headings insert a full cell in 2 rows (1 for each column). Include the tn: This table does not have a specified number of rows.

          in reply to: Web addresses; underscore #20680
          Chris Clemens
          Keymaster

            I asked the CBA chair to comment on the question about underlined links. Here is her response.

            I recommend to people that the underlining not be acknowledged. It's
            obvious to the reader by context, as well as by the presence of
            opening and closing indicators, where the link begins and ends, and
            adding an emphasis indicator would slow the reader down.

            in reply to: Skeleton Tables #20688
            Chris Clemens
            Keymaster

              Table attached.

              in reply to: Symbol for “is a normal subgroup of” #20684
              Chris Clemens
              Keymaster

                A late suggestion came in on this question.

                Section 107 covers this situation. Just use a shape symbol followed unspaced by 2 letters.

                So your symbol could be [braille]$ns for "normal subgroup" which is a shorter term than modifying a triangle. Your tn (or special symbols page) would still have to describe the print sign (left-pointing equilateral triangle) when defining the symbol's meaning.

                in reply to: Skeleton Tables #20687
                Chris Clemens
                Keymaster

                  Could I see what your skeleton table actually looks like -- a picture of it?

                  in reply to: Symbol for “is a normal subgroup of” #20681
                  Chris Clemens
                  Keymaster

                    Thanks once again. I'm learning that higher math means sometimes having to "make it up as you go along". 🙂

                    in reply to: Symbol for “is a normal subgroup of” #20683
                    Chris Clemens
                    Keymaster

                      No one I have discussed this with is aware of a previously created symbol for normal subgroup.

                      It certainly seems to have the function of a comparison symbol. Our suggestion is to devise a shape in the style of the other triangles listed in Rule XVI (NC page 113-114) using the letter n to identify it as "normal" -- [braille]$t.n]
                      A tn must describe the shape the symbol represents ("equilateral triangle pointing left").

                      As a comparison sign, it would require a space on either side.

                      in reply to: bold and arrow in vectors, author discusses #20675
                      Chris Clemens
                      Keymaster

                        I have discussed the problem of the boldface multiplication sign with our committee. The suggestion is to insert a tn stating that 456, 4, 16 indicates a boldface multiplication cross in this chapter/section/example. If the sign is used more frequently, the symbol would have to be listed on the special symbols page because it is transcriber created (not a Code symbol).

                        in reply to: Web addresses; underscore #20679
                        Chris Clemens
                        Keymaster

                          There currently is no requirement that the web address go on the title page. If you feel it is necessary it could go on the line under the address of the publisher. There is also no provision for putting it anywhere else. The Formats chair says that the rules require just a few things from that print page: the ISBN, copyright date, and publisher name and address.

                          The line under the web address is not an underscore. It signifies that that section of print is a link to another page on the internet. Once you turn that address into braille it is no longer a link. I think you could cover this on the transcriber's notes page (In print, web addresses are underlined to indicate a link - or something like that). I have contacted the BANA Computer Braille chair to see if they have developed a standard way to handle this, and I will return to this question when I get an answer. If you look at this page (forum) you will see underlined text indicating a link.

                          in reply to: Embedded Links #20686
                          Chris Clemens
                          Keymaster

                            I would regard the links following the original expression to be a continuation of the problem, so I would place them in cell 3 as runovers to the expression. (each link beginning in cell 3).

                            in reply to: Transcriber’s Note in Nemeth #20656
                            Chris Clemens
                            Keymaster

                              The treatment of the systems of equations as discussed in the course book is an interpretation of the Code. The errata was correcting the interpretation, not changing the Code. Systems of equations are spatial and would be preceded and followed by blank lines, regardless of the presence (or not) of enlarged grouping symbols. That definition got muddied because the only discussion about systems of equations in the Code was in the section about enlarged grouping symbols.

                              I don't know if that clarifies the situation. The Nemeth test is a test of the code and not a test of the course. The course book should only be used to help understand what is written in the code, not to base your decisions on.

                              in reply to: How to braille “Circles P and Q”? #20665
                              Chris Clemens
                              Keymaster

                                I apologize for the delay in answering. The answer to your questions is "yes". The P does not need a letter indicator because it immediately follows the plural of a sign of shape. The Q needs a letter indicator because it is a single letter standing alone. Nothing in the expression prohibits the use of the "and" contraction.

                                in reply to: subscript with phrase containing spaces & numbers #20671
                                Chris Clemens
                                Keymaster

                                  Your braille looks correct. You would not need a numeric indicator on the 2 because it is not preceded by a space or punctuation.

                                  The bold minus is dots 456, 36 as specified in Rule XIX

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