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Chris Clemens
KeymasterThank you, Joanna.
I read Section 12.2b several times, but I guess I thought the italics were to distinguish the example sentence from the definition and the bold was emphasizing the word used in the example. As someone pointed out, sometimes we over think.
I will omit the italics and bold.
Chris Clemens
KeymasterPlease see Section 12.2b of the NBA Interim Manual for Foreign Language Braille Transcribing. It states that special typeface for entry and subentry words is ignored. Special typeface is retain only WITHIN an entry to indicate emphasis or discintction.
Please let me know if further information is needed.
–Joanna
Chris Clemens
KeymasterThank you so much. I have now “re-read” the Formats Update that I mentioned and realize that it does not apply at all to what I was asking about. Thanks again.
Chris Clemens
KeymasterThe print page numbers at the end of line 1 (or at the end of a page change indicator) are transcribed according to English braille rules (and Formats). However, in either case there would not be a numeric indicator on the number following the hyphen. I’m assuming by combined page number you mean something like page 8-9, not a continued page like a8.
Chris Clemens
KeymasterUse Spanish (uncontracted, Spanish alphabet symols) for all the Spanish and use contracted English for all the English in a table of contents. It would be very helpful if you would post an actual page so that I can see if there are any unusual situations here.
–Joanna
Chris Clemens
KeymasterThanks for your input Dorothy. I agree with you about doing the entire book in Nemeth. I think it can be very confusing to go back and forth in Nemeth and Textbook. For me and the student.
Chris Clemens
KeymasterBeing a Nemeth fan, I look for an excuse to justify transcribing according to Nemeth Code. There is no guideline that I know of. If you don’t believe the entire book requires Nemeth Code, you could use the Code for those volumes where it is necessary, transcribing the entire volume accordingly. Remember to include the note on the TN page stating the use of Nemeth Code in the transcription of the applicable volumes. As I said, I would probably choose to do the entire book in Nemeth Code.
Chris Clemens
KeymasterI think I would look at it like any other type of diagram with a caption. A map would use the entire width of the page. A table or chart would begin at the margin. A pie graph would begin at the left margin. I would put the chemical structure at the left margin of the page following the caption.
Chris Clemens
KeymasterHere is the statement from the new, new rules not yet published, published, published
Vocabulary or word lists that consist of only foreign words or short phrases which are followed by translations without any intervening punctuation are brailled as follows. Ignore special typeface used for the listed words. Insert a colon following the entry words and continue the translation on the same braille line.
And there’s the deal. You HAVE intervening puncutation. So you are absolutely correct. Leave the commas as is, use contracted braille for the English and the reader will get the pattern of the punctuation separating the languages.
On this particular point, the current manual says the same thing.
Thanks for the interesting question.
–Joanna
Chris Clemens
KeymasterI think I understand it from your answer.
I was reading the Foreign Language article (NBA Spring 2010 bulletin page 16) and was a little confused on the use of the colon.In the article the reason the colon was inserted was because there wasn’t any other punctuation to separate the Spanish from the English.
So I can see why I would leave the comma as the language separator in my examples.
Thank you very much.Chris Clemens
KeymasterPlease send the print page this comes from. There is some kind of translation going on here, so there must be some kind of vocabulary function. Can’t tell without seeing the page to get a context. As in Formats, we don’t add or change anything in print except under certain circumstances. It could be that the comma is used as the language separator.
I can give you a better answer when I see the print.
–Joanna
Chris Clemens
KeymasterMakes sense now, thank you for the explanation.
Chris Clemens
KeymasterIf the abbreviation follows a space or a hyphen, punctuate as in literary braille. However, if the abbreviation consists of an unspaced series of numbers and letters, the letters should be individually capitalized and punctuated mathematically, according to the latest update on BANA’s website. So your final example (1040EZ.) would look like this:
[braille]#1040,e,z_4
Chris Clemens
KeymasterThank you for answering the question posted here. You are correct that the braille symbol for this is 456, 123456. It stands for proportionality.
Chris Clemens
KeymasterThe only other thing that I found in the Nemeth Code Book that could resemble an 8 turned sideways, with one end open is on page 23.
The Greek lower-case alpha (ordinary lower-case a). -
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