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ModeratorThank you for the print and the explanation.
I see now. This is a table, not a graphic. Table rules should be followed. The transcriber chose facing pages. After examining the layout and cell structure, this is my recommendation:
(1) The main column headings can be retained because they fit. No need for a key that combines the column headings and the column subheadings. Vertical headings will still need to be keyed.
(2) Use separation lines because this is a table.
(3) Put two blank cells between columns.
(4) Any remaining space between the left-side page and the right-side page is filled in with guide dots (dot 5s).
(5) Vertical lines are not used in tables. The separation lines and spacing sufficiently indicate column boundaries. (see attached sample)
(6) Ordinarily dot 5s are used for blank space (omissions) in tables unless there are clearly dashes or squares, etc., to indicate space for an answer. However, there are spaces in this table that are NOT intended for student answers. I do like the use of the underscore to indicate the boxes to be filled in. Use dot 5s for all the other blank space.
(7) Explain the format (facing pages), dot 5s to indicate blank space, and the use of the underscore in a transcriber’s note on the previous page.
(8) For ease of navigation between the two pages, add box lines.
(9) Now, your original concern: The questions, WHO? WHAT? and so on, are not part of the table construction. There should be no text following this wide table format. The questions can be moved to the previous page (explained in the transcriber’s note.)
New (unrelated) text should be moved to the next braille page after the table.
Keep in mind that a well-crafted transcriber’s note is key to any weirdness with print-to-braille.
I have attached a quick draft of the table.
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ModeratorCould I see the print? Could you send the pdf page or screenshot?
I am not entirely sure what I am looking at. Is this a table across pages or a grid/tactile graphic using braille cells? I need a little more information. Let's start with the print copy. There may be more issues than just the placement of the questions.
Charles Mize
ModeratorTenth printing lets the reader know which version of this book they have.
An ISBN number does NOT mean that every copy of a book is the same. From 1999 to 2010, there may have been alterations to this text without the need for a new ISBN number. By using "10th printing" this offers the same information as a string of numbers.
So, you chose correctly. Follow print and place this as the print history.
January 24, 2026 at 5:09 pm in reply to: Exercise material with sub-paragraph and answer choices #44479Charles Mize
ModeratorYou are correct that Braille Formats 2016 does not address "succeeding paragraphs."
Most seasoned transcribers prefer the choice you made (7-5).
A succeeding paragraph shares the runover position (cell 5). The indentation then becomes cell 7.
For the 1-3 questions, the paragraphing would be 5-3.
This is a suggestion, not a rule.
Hope this helps!
December 11, 2025 at 5:32 pm in reply to: Source citation after exercise material in 1/5, 3/5 #44385Charles Mize
ModeratorGreat question!
There is no exception for exercise material. The source citation will immediately follow 3b with no blank line.
Begin the course citation in cell 9 rather than cell 10. I know it can be confusing. Formatting is almost always an odd-numbered cell. When it states that sources begin in the 5th cell to the right of the previous line, that does not mean 5 blank cells. In your sample, cells 5-8 are blank and cell 9 is the 5th cell.
Look at the cell count before each item below:
1-2-b. text text text text text (3-5)
1-2-3-4-runover text runover text. (cell 5 for the runover)
1-2-3-4-5-6-7-8-Source (9-9)
I hope that helps.
Thanks for your question.
Charles Mize
ModeratorIn the first volume, you will only include pages that are transcribed within that volume. The table of contents pages (which will later appear in future volumes) are accounted for in their respective volumes. So, they are ignored in volume 1.
Your page numbers in the first volume and on the title page will be something like: i-biv, xi-xx, and 1-...
In Volume 2, your page numbering will begin with v or whatever page from the TOC is in that volume.
Subsequent volumes will have the next applicable TOC page.
So when the transcription is complete, ALL the print pages will have been accounted for.
Charles Mize
ModeratorThe question is on the borderline between Braille Formats and the UEB Rules. So, because "lists" are mentioned; we will say this is Braille Formats. Because several items in a list are completely italicized, your friend is correct about the application of UEB 9.9. Look at the following example. Note that the first title below contains text that is not part of the title.
[open] The First President,[Close] co-written by Dr. J.E. Abrams
[open] Executive Orders
[open] 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue
[open] The Election of 1800 [Close]
Do you have an example to share? Is there a particular list of titles that is giving you trouble?
Charles Mize
ModeratorBraille Formats does not address this situation directly. Instead, look at sample 2-21 (page 2-50). In the sample Prentice Hall is used as the publisher's name in the corresponding braille. But it is part of a larger company, Simon & Schuster/Viacom.
However, the key to your situation is the print title page. In Sample 2-21, Prentice Hall is not only part of the title, but it is shown to be the publisher at the bottom of the print title page. Simon & Schuster does not appear.
So, with your book, look at the print title page (not the copyright page). What is the text at the bottom of that page? It is ordinarily the publisher's name and/or logo.
Charles Mize
ModeratorGreat question!
The text is an epigraph. The guidelines state to omit font attributes unless needed for distinction.
In this situation, it was decided that the words "Nocturnal Spectator" are being emphasized by NOT being in italics.
In braille, we "reverse emphasize" words in this situation.
Charles Mize
ModeratorFor Perky Duck or any other software questions, go to the Computer-Assisted Transcription forum. The moderator is James Williams. If he does not know the answer, I am sure he will find it for you. In the list of Ask the Expert categories, it is just below the Braille Formats Forum.
Charles Mize
ModeratorWould the ordinary method be this: (if it fits)
<p style="text-align: left;">Centered: Company B</p>
Blank linecell 1: Nemeth Switch
cell 1: Cost$
cell 1: Graph
aligned per GSTG: Number of Shirts
Blank
cell 1: Nemeth Switch
Charles Mize
ModeratorGrade: A+
Charles Mize
ModeratorI should have posted this weeks ago. I found the answer. Under Options/Text/Paragraph Text: Check "Expand and shrink paragraph text frames to fit text"
This will automatically expand the text boxes without moving the text on the page.
Thank you to the awesome Betty Marshall for advice at the conference last fall!
Charles Mize
ModeratorI got an error message on the NBA site that said I am not allowed to upload this file type. It is a corel draw file.
Charles Mize
ModeratorAttached is one of the files in question. The labels on the numbers lines show correctly on my computer. For the producer, the text boxes were red and the text did not show.
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