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  • in reply to: Special Symbols #22845
    lmcgbrl
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    so no grouping with cell 5 title? Just a list in braille order? - all the typeforms could be separated by other symbols?

    in reply to: Special Symbols #22844
    lmcgbrl
    Participant

    It has been approved by the BANA board that the Special Symbols page be done in braille order. Braille order is explained in the UEB codebook on page 275, Appendix 3. The Appendix is done in braille order so if you don't understand the written explanation, the order shown in the appendix should be followed.

    Cindi

    in reply to: Special Symbols #22843
    lmcgbrl
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    One more question - would we group the SS as we did before but with new title - e.g. typeform indicators, grouping indicators etc. Would they follow the ungrouped symbols, e.g. copyright, slash etc.? Thanks.

    in reply to: Note indicators #22848
    lmcgbrl
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    Yes, they did. In UEB, you will follow print for whatever reference indicator is used. If print uses an asterisk, you would use the asterisk symbol (dots 5, 25). According to UEB 3.3.1, the asterisk (and dagger and double dagger) are not considered in the superscript position even if they are above the regular print line. If print uses a superscript number, you would use the superscript indicator (dots 35) followed by the numeric indicator and the number. Be aware that you will likely need the grade 1 indicator preceding the superscript indicator so that it is not read as the contraction for 'in'. Space the indicators as they are spaced in print and place them as they are placed in print (before or after the word). Formats will recommend that in a glossary or dictionary, the superscript numbers are placed after the entry word just so the entry words always appear at the margin.

    Do not use the 2356 2356 base reference indicator as part of the reference mark in UEB transcriptions. That symbol does not exist in UEB.

    Cindi

    in reply to: ea contraction #22779
    lmcgbrl
    Participant

    [quote=joannavenneri]Cindi--if they are correct according to UEB rules NOT to use ea in Leah, may I ask WHICH UEB Rules you refer to? Or which rules they (whoever they are) refer to? I still don't understand why these graders say ea is not used in Leah. I don't understand why Linda and Jana have been told NOT to use ea in Leah.

    --Joanna[/quote]

    I think what was most confusing to me was you WOULD use the ea contraction in the word "create" in which the e and the a are pronounced independently ... but in the word Leah, which is prounounced "Lee", "Le-ah", and, according to our esteemed instructors "Lay-uh" you do not use the contraction? It is apparent neither instructor is a transcriber or has transcribing experience ... and I mean no disrespect, but transcribers know there is a difference between a teacher who teacher braille dots, and a transcriber, who takes print, formats it, and turns the words into dots. Most teachers have no or very little experience with formatting documents, books, or words. They can read the dots, but that doesn't mean they know how or why it is brailled the way it is. Just my .05¢ worth this fine day 🙂

    in reply to: ea contraction #22778
    lmcgbrl
    Participant

    I'm sorry--but I'm confused. If you note that the word likeable uses the ea contraction, how are they correct to say NOT to use it in Leah? Is there a typo here or am I not understanding something? Help!

    --Joanna

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