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  • in reply to: Formats question #43844
    Michael Gunner
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    Hello Rodney,

    Thank you for the question.

    In this situation, the contributing authors shown on the title page would be placed on the braille title page.

    Thanks

    Mike

    in reply to: Typeform passage beginning with dash #43792
    Michael Gunner
    Moderator

    Based upon my understanding of the rules of the passage indicator, I would say the answer to your question is yes.

    in reply to: Table of Math #43791
    Michael Gunner
    Moderator

    Hello Melissa,

    Thank you for your question.

    I think this is the correct forum for your question even though it is mathematical.

    Based on your example, it appears that each column is composed of exercises assigned to a day of the week. I would recommend making each day of the week a cell five heading and list the assignments under their corresponding day. The two rows that span all days of the week I would recommend listing them under Monday.

    Mike

    in reply to: Typeform passage beginning with dash #43778
    Michael Gunner
    Moderator

    Hello,

    Tell the guys, thank you for their question.

    I look at the dash as the end of the previous text as opposed to the beginning of the following text. That being said, neither interpretation of the dash would limit the use of the italics passage indicator. The correct use would be to place it after the dash.

    Mike

     

     

    in reply to: The word “continue” #43776
    Michael Gunner
    Moderator

    Hi Soo,

    Thank you for the question. I am unable to find a specific rule that addresses this issue. However, the word "continue" when used in this way is generally ignored.

    Mike

    in reply to: paragraph heading? itemized material? #43772
    Michael Gunner
    Moderator

    Hello Michelle,

    Thank you for your question.

    Based on your example, it would be appropriate to threat those headings paragraph headings and bring the text up so the the format would be 1-5, 3-5 as you outlined in your editor's notes.

    Mike

     

    in reply to: Special Symbols page #43768
    Michael Gunner
    Moderator

    Hi Lindy,

    Thank you for your question.

    To my knowledge there have been no updates to the 2016 Formatting Guidelines with regards to the provisions governing special symbols. The specific section is Section G Symbols and Indicators which states, "Grouping indicators [braille grouping indicators, parentheses, braces, brackets, angle brackets] (UEB §7)" are included on the special symbols page.

    Mike

    Michael Gunner
    Moderator

    Hello Dawn,

    Thank you for your question. Your questions highlights the  flexibility of the use of grade one indicators within the UEB code. In this situation both transcriptions are correct.  You can use the grade one indicator on single letters or place the grade one passage indicator before the entire second transcription.

    Based on my personal preference, I would use the format with the grade one indicator on the x. Since the second version per the formatting guidelines doesn’t use contractions, the grade one passage indicator is not needed. My rationale here is that the two cells used by the grade one indicator are the same as used for the other stressed syllable marks.

    Mike

    in reply to: Grade Level Question #43716
    Michael Gunner
    Moderator

    Hello Jessica.

    Welcome to ask the expert. Thank you for your question.  Yes, this is the correct forum for formatting questions.

    You correctly quote BF 2.3.4.g, which states that the grade level is included when "clearly apparent". In your situation, the fact that the grade level is indicated on the inside cover would be considered "clearly apparent".

    Mike

     

    in reply to: BF Question #43696
    Michael Gunner
    Moderator

    Hello Xia,

    Thank you for your question.

    To answer your question.

    ln 6: Cell five heading. Blank line before but not after. (BF.4.5)

    ln7-ln10: This text is directions. Directions are formatted in 5-5. (BF10.3)

    ln12: Cell seven heading. Blank line before but not after. (BF.4.6)

    ln13-ln14: Exercise material with sub-entry formatted in 1-5. (BF10.4)

    ln15: Sub-entry formatted in 3-5. (BF10.4)

    ln16: Blank line required after exercise examples. (BF10.8)

    Mike

    Michael Gunner
    Moderator

    Hello Susan,

    Thank you for question.

    Since you are including a TN as part of moving the boxed material, your page numbering will stay in sequential order.   I wrote it out below.

    p. 179

    Text

    If you feel you need a TN explaining where text restarts. (However if a new topic is starting probably do not need a TN)

    TN Text continues on p. (continuation letter)179.  (only if deemed needed)

    TN Box moved from p. 280

    Start box

    p. 179 continues with (continuation letter)179

    End box

    The rest of the text from pg.179

    pg 280

    TN Box moved to p. (continuation letter)179

    p. 281-282

    Text

    Mike

    in reply to: Formats question #43681
    Michael Gunner
    Moderator

    Hello Rodney,

    Thank you for your question.

    I would agree that you should not make the exercises nested to the definition. The plan to use a blank line is a good one. I suggest following  the provisions of BF. 21 for the format of the definitions. I also recommend keeping the shape indicator that is shown before the exercises and place on the special symbols page with an explanation such as "proceeds exercise material".

    Mike

    in reply to: No Print page numbers #43644
    Michael Gunner
    Moderator

    Hello Michelle,

    Thank you for your question.

    While you are certainly correct that transcribers and proofreaders have varying ideas on how to format unnumbered pages, it is also important that the formatting guidelines in place support those ideas.

    You correctly identified that BF 1.11.6 provides clear guidelines for formatting print pages without page numbers. These guidelines should be followed unless you are directed by an agency ignore these guidelines.

    Michael

     

    in reply to: Headings and Blank lines #43614
    Michael Gunner
    Moderator

    Hello Anne,

    Thank you for your question.

    After consultation with the committee and a member of the BANA Formats committee.

    Your general understanding is correct.

    Although the 2024 update references "text" as list, poems, box or poems.  The spirit of the rule applies to all material that requires a blank line after it such as displayed, exercise sets, etc. So the correct application is:

    For material ending a braille page:
    • Does the format require a blank line after it? If yes,
    • Is there text on line 24 or 25? If yes,
    • Is there a running head on the next page? If yes, place the blank line on line 2, if no, place the blank line on line 1.

    Based upon the above information the example (A) would be incorrect because a box line requires a blank line following.

    The "What about headings" portion of your question was more challenging. As you stated, "If there can be no confusion for the braille reader, should we maintain a blank line on line 1?" Many years ago a transcriber was given the ability to remove a blank line if it was determined that the change in format was enough to alert the reader and cause "no confusion." The problem with that process is that transcribers often have different ideas as to what will or will not cause confusion.

    Taking away this discretion means that there needs to be a blank line before material that the guidelines state need a blank line. This includes, but is not limited to; headings, lists, displayed, itemized, etc. With this in mind, we apply the above concept to all material that requires a blank line at the top of a braille page. In doing so we get the following process:

    For material beginning a braille page:
    • Does the format require a blank line before it? If yes,
    • Is there text on line 24 or 25 of the previous page? If yes,
    • Is there a running head? If yes, place the blank line on line 2, if no, place the blank line on line 1.

    The purpose of these guidelines is to eliminate transcriber discretion and produce more consistent braille.

    Michael

     

     

    in reply to: 2024 Updates to Braille Formats and Blank lines question #43608
    Michael Gunner
    Moderator

    Hello Heather,

    Thank you for your question.

    In this situation you actually have 2 governing guidelines to consider in determining the use of a blank line.

    The first you have already identified which correctly states that a blank line is needed on line 1. (or in your situation line 2 because the book is double spaced.)

    However, in this situation you must also consider the guidelines for centered headings BF4.4. This  guideline indicates that a blank line is required before a centered heading. So since there is text on line 25 a blank line is needed before the centered heading which in this case is line 1. (or in your situation line 2 because the book is double spaced.)

    It is also important to remember that, with the advances in technology, students are often reading refreshable braille and therefore do not have the effect physically turning the page. This makes it more important to have good line spacing to reinforce a format change.

    Michael

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