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  • #30278
    kdejute
    Moderator

    Katrina,

    Thank you for your question and for specifying what code [combination] you’re using. It is quite a practical question, since we’ve all seen these arrows in print.

    The Nemeth Code does not directly address these “jump” arrows. The best way to represent them is with tactile graphics. Since the print editor felt jump arrows were an important teaching tool in the book, to omit them would be to give the braille reader fewer tools than the print reader gets. So, all the arrows should be drawn/spurred.

    Since we know it is sometimes impossible to produce tactile graphics, we might suggest that, if you must, within the text at each point where a jump arrow is used, you include the commentary that’s given in print about what the arrow illustrates (e.g., “7 places to the right”) or insert a TN to do the same thing. If you use only commentary or TNs to explain jump arrows instead of including them as tactile graphics, I would suggest that you include a sample TG or two at the beginning of any volume in which these arrows appear, with the goal of showing the braille reader what the arrows look like and how they spatially relate to the numbers and decimals to which they apply.

    Please note that if your print text includes a caret, that should be included within the braille, in accordance with Nemeth Code section 161 (a screenshot of which should be attached).

    Keep on rocking and rolling!

    –Kyle & the NBA committee on Nemeth Code for Math and Science

    • This reply was modified 7 years, 7 months ago by kdejute. Reason: response edited to emphasize importance of TG for jump arrows if at all possible
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    #29341

    In reply to: Nemeth within UEB text

    kdejute
    Moderator

    Kimberly,

    Thank you for your question. Please see the attached .BRF, in which I have transcribed a portion of the print sample you shared with the following judgment calls:

    • Use Nemeth switch indicators as needed within each item or subitem
    • When a [sub]item consists of  a series of numbers, include the whole series in switch indicators if one number in that series requires switch indicators.

    Please do let me know if this sample and brief commentary does not fully address your question and/or if you have follow-up questions.

     

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    #22465
    AZFowls
    Participant

    So sorry! I forgot to mention those commentaries. Yes, the commentaries will observe the same right-hand margin as the rest of the text within the line-numbered format. I see this commentary as a blocked paragraph. I would have a blank line before and after and keep that right side margin.

    I also forgot to mention the TN. Yes, indeed have a TN at the beginning. I think all you need is to explain that the verse numbers are centered above each verse in print and shown at the right margin in braille. I don't think you need that additional information in the TN about the 3 blank spaces because there won't be any here since the line number is applied only on the first line of the verse.

    I agree with you also about the ease of reading in this format. It also makes it easy for the reader to distinguish between the verse and the commentary.

    Thanks for this very interesting question.

    --Joanna

    #21574

    In reply to: Headings

    I'm confused by this latest post. In your commentary you state that you have concluded that it is no longer to have chapter or section number on a line by itself.

    I agree with you for the reasons you stated. Therefore, I don't understand the conclusion that you apparently reached, that sample #2 is the better choice. Sample #2 does indeed put the section number on a line by itself and I think the result is not particularly desirable. I would go with Sample #1.

    --Joanna

    #11312
    Chris Clemens
    Keymaster

    In a performance commentary, octave designations are given in superscript form, e.g. "the accented d(superscript)2" or "the grace-note c#(superscript)2". How should I handle these in this literary text? Thanks for your help!

    #21409
    joannavenneri
    Participant

    I don't think the old Formats mentioned circled item numbers either. The only reference to that seems to be in that example. With the lack of a specific rule or even a comment, my own judgment is that's the way someone thought it should be done. What is the purpose of these shapes? Do they add to the meaning or are they simply a visual or decorative device to draw visual attention to the number of the item? Note that in several places in tne Formats, there is commentary about transcriber judgments, especially with regard to the omission or inclusion of font attributes.

    Please send a print page and I'll be glad to take a closer look.

    --Joanna

    #21372

    In reply to: Braille Formats 2011

    joannavenneri
    Participant

    I think there are no braille examples for the sidebars because they aren't necessary. "Sidebar" is a new term in Formats and the braille format is very well described. Simply braille the sidebar as boxed material, using the appropriate paragraph format as in print, and place the material in the appropriate location as determined by how the material relates to the regular text. The commentary in the section clearly explains that the purpose of the section is to identify sidebars so that the transcriber will know which print material to treat in this fashion. Several types of print sidebars are shown. If a transcriber is uncertain about how to place material in a box, I recommend a visit over to Section 7 Boxed Material.

    --Joanna

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