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ParticipantPlease try to repost the photo - it did not upload in the previous post.
Without seeing it, my answer would be that whatever source information is included in print should be included in braille according to Braille Formats.
Cindi
August 18, 2022 at 4:04 pm in reply to: Nemeth code in measuring devices (barometers, protractors, rulers etc) #39197claurent
ParticipantI thought I should post again. I was reminded that on protractors, rulers and thermometers, the number sign is omitted (per Tactile Graphics Guidelines) so it really doesn't matter if they are done in UEB or Nemeth as they can easily be done in either code without changing what appears in braille. If you are in Nemeth already, you can stay in Nemeth. If you are in UEB, you could stay in UEB. Obviously if any of the numbers are decimals, negative numbers, or degrees, they would have to be done in Nemeth. Sorry for the confusion!
Cindi
August 18, 2022 at 4:04 pm in reply to: Nemeth code in measuring devices (barometers, protractors, rulers etc) #39196claurent
ParticipantI thought I should post again. I was reminded that on protractors, rulers and thermometers, the number sign is omitted (per Tactile Graphics Guidelines) so it really doesn't matter if they are done in UEB or Nemeth as they can easily be done in either code without changing what appears in braille. If you are in Nemeth already, you can stay in Nemeth. If you are in UEB, you could stay in UEB. Obviously if any of the numbers are decimals, negative numbers, or degrees, they would have to be done in Nemeth. Sorry for the confusion!
Cindi
August 15, 2022 at 3:03 pm in reply to: Nemeth code in measuring devices (barometers, protractors, rulers etc) #39184claurent
ParticipantNumber lines should be done in Nemeth. I would take that to include rulers. However, if you are talking about, say, the sides of a triangle that are measured 3, 7, 9, those could be done in UEB. I guess I am not clear what you mean be "measuring devices". If this has not answered your question, please provide a picture of the page in question.
Cindi Laurent (filling in for Lindy)
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ParticipantIf you add a label, just put in in TN indicators to show that it is not in print.
Cindi
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ParticipantAccording to BF 16.8.2 you would put them in 7-5. I can see how this might be confusing to a reader - you could always separate them from the table by adding blank lines before and after the note (this would require a TN). Putting them before the table really isn't helpful either as it can be difficult to know exactly which note goes with which word (unless they are numbered/lettered?).
Cindi
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ParticipantIf it is included in print it should be included in braille.
Cindi
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ParticipantIt would be helpful to know what braille format you are using...
Just looking at the print, I would say it is probably some type of list format...where the braille reader would most likely start at the margin to find something rather than "glancing" around. I can see no reason why the passage indicators should not be used...
Cindi
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ParticipantI'll assume you are doing stairstep format here. Each item in this example (referring to the 3 items in "Notation" in the fourth row) would begin in cell 5.
Cindi
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ParticipantJulie - sorry that there has been no answer here. We are currently without a UEB chair 🙁
- No - you cannot contract was next to the open quote mark.
- No - same
- Yes, you can contract the en
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ParticipantFormats does not directly address this. My suggestion would be to make your identifier say something like: "Print shows 4 photographs: Cabot Tower, Signal Hill, St. John's; hand-made moccasins from Hopedale; painted mailbox; ..."
By adding in the the number of photos there is no confusion about how many separate photos there are.
Cindi
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ParticipantWithout seeing the print: it sounds like the words following "see also" are bold because they are entry words...in which case you do not need to retain the emphasis...just as you did not retain the emphasis for the "main" entry words.
Cindi
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ParticipantIs this found in the margin of the book? It almost looks like a cross reference (go somewhere else in the book and do this). Without seeing the whole page I would suggest that Connection be in cell 7 and the body text be blocked in cell 5 (per BF 9.6).
Cindi
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ParticipantAfter polling the committee, here is a suggestion: Make Conditional Mood (and other items like that) paragraph headings...use some kind of typeform indicator to make the "heading" stand out (since there is bold within the displayed phrases, use something different - I can't tell if they are colored in print but a transcriber-defined typeform would work). If you choose to do blocked paragraphs, a blank line would be required preceding it - since the entry word is a cell 5 heading, this would still be "under" the entry...and it leaves less confusion between that and the displayed material.
Hope this helps! I'd love a .pdf of this page to use for possible workshops in the future - this is certainly a challenge! Let me know how you decide to precede.
Cindi
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ParticipantOh! Of course! For that, I'm going to poll some other experts...hang tight 🙂
Cindi
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