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  • in reply to: multiple unmarked references per page #27712
    claurent
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    These do not look like reference notes to me...they don't add any extra information or point the reader elsewhere.  They don't define words used in the paragraph.  They are almost paragraph headings...would it work to do that?  Make them emphasized paragraph headings on the paragraph to which they apply?  If you choose to do this, do a transcriber's note on the TN page explaining what you have done.

    Cindi

    in reply to: multiple unmarked references per page #27709
    claurent
    Participant

    You are correct we are not to add line numbers.

    The notes are placed in the order in which they occur on the page.  Do you think this might be more appropriately treated as marginal labels?  Especially if there isn't a specific point within a paragraph that it applies to?

    If every paragraph is marked, it might be easier for the reader if you DID include the line numbers.  I guess I don't really know enough about your print.  But if every paragraph is marked, the marginal label guidelines really wouldn't work well either.

    Cindi

    in reply to: Symbols page of the Rules of Unified English Braille #27706
    claurent
    Participant

    I cannot speak for the creators of the document you referenced...though I will check with someone I know about it.

    Here's what I know:  The grade 1 indicator is NOT part of the symbol and should not be shown in the special symbols list.

    The dot locator for mention is required preceding every symbol in a list.

    The transcriber's note indicator does not have to be repeated on subsequent paragraphs.  I'm not sure why it shows up like that...but again, I will check.  If I find out any "new" information, I will post again here.

    Cindi

     

    in reply to: Hierarchy levels & headings #27620
    claurent
    Participant

    It's very hard to answer this question based on this little bit.  Looking at this bit I would say that what you have is a headings (in bold in print) followed by a paragraph (labeled 3 & 4) followed by itemized sentences which could be done in 1-3.  If the heading is "under" something else, it could be done as a cell 7 heading.

    Now, as I said, this is based on the little bit you sent.

    Cindi

    in reply to: Nemeth indicators across UEB pages #27604
    claurent
    Participant

    You do not need to close and re-open Nemeth.  Once it is open, it is open until you close it.  It's no problem that it goes over a page change...or two.

    Cindi

    in reply to: Nondirectional Single Quotation Marks #27603
    claurent
    Participant

    Thanks for handling this for me!

    Cindi

    in reply to: Nemeth material in UEB #27567
    claurent
    Participant

    Open Nemeth 1.258 grams Close Nemeth per centimeters cubed Open Nemeth (g/cm³) Close Nemeth.

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    grams (g) of Open Nemeth 3 cm³ Close Nemeth of the substance at room temperature.

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    For consistency, you could choose to do grams (g) in Nemeth, but if you do that then all abbreviations of that type should be done in Nemeth as well.

    Cindi

    in reply to: Beethoven #27559
    claurent
    Participant

    Consensus among the committee is that yes, you can use the 'th' in Beethoven.  There are no rules prohibiting it.

    Cindi

    in reply to: Analogies #27545
    claurent
    Participant

    See Section 3.17 of UEB.  Use dots 25 for the 'is to' and dots 25, 25 for the 'as'.  We are still using ratio and proportion for these symbols...just the UEB version.

    Cindi

    in reply to: Recertification news? #27528
    claurent
    Participant

    What would you like to know?  I have received the letter of proficiency through NLS.  The program is managed by NFB.  It's a three part test, you must pass each part to move on to the next.  I do know that the waiting list is long.  I also know that NFB is doing the best they can to move people through the list.

    Cindi

    in reply to: Shortforms as parts of longer words #27448
    claurent
    Participant

    I am a bit confused...but here you go.  This is what I know.

    hereabout and whereabout are initial letter contractions.

    According to 10.7.1 these types of contractions can be used wherever the letters they represent occur (unless another rule prohibits that).  I can't find any rule that prohibits either of these being used in hereabout or whereabout.

    The rule for shortforms says what you noted in the first post above (I'm not going to repost it here).

    So I then go to Appendix 1...which deals with shortforms.  Look at the list regarding the shortform word 'about' (page 229 of the code).  Both hereabout and whereabout are on that list...so both are acceptable.

    Now we add the 's'.  If you look at the paragraph at the very beginning of Appendix 1 (under "The list") it says that when an 's' or apostrophe 's' is added to any word on the list, use the shortform with the following exceptions...I realize that abouts is one of those exceptions...but it is not the word hereabouts or the word whereabouts...it is the word abouts all by itself (and that's probably because the contractions abs could mean abs [a different word] rather than abouts).

    So hereabouts would be (here)(about)s and whereabouts would be (where)(about)s.  Since hereabouts is shown as an approved word on page 138, my logic is sound...and would apply to whereabouts in the same manner.

    Does this help?

    Cindi

    in reply to: Shortforms as parts of longer words #27437
    claurent
    Participant

    Where are you seeing that whereabout's is NOT ok?  I see the example for hereabouts - that uses the dot 5habs...but I don't see anything there that says you can't use about in whereabout's.

    Cindi

    in reply to: Shortforms as parts of longer words #27435
    claurent
    Participant

    According to Appendix 1, page 229, both are acceptable.  Hereabout and whereabout are both on the  shortforms list.  The paragraph at the top says that an 's' added to any word on the list doesn't change that fact (with the exception of abouts, almosts and hims).

     

    Cindi

    in reply to: Reference Notes (Revised) #27434
    claurent
    Participant

    Yes, you do need a grade 1 indicator on the e standing alone.  The Formats committee argued for uncontracted braille being used in pronunciations, but the rules of UEB prevailed.

    Cindi

    in reply to: spacing between ellipsis dots #27425
    claurent
    Participant

    An ellipsis is represented in braille by three cells of dots 256 - unspaced from each other.  The spacing preceding and following the ellipsis can follow print, but the ellipsis itself is unspaced.

     

    Cindi

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