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8-9, then a9, b9 if 9 runs to additional braille pages.
You have text on page 7. Done.
No text on page 8.
Text on page 9. The idea is to let the braille reader know where the text IS, that is being read. 8-9 tells the reader that there was no text on 8 and text resumed on 9.
–Joanna
You’re the transcriber and I can’t dictate how you choose to format a table. I see that table as four related columns. I would not personally move columns as you describe, but this is your choice. I am uncertain about the large enclosure. If the guidelines don’t provide enough options for you, consider omitting it and explaining it in the transcriber’s note.
–Joanna
Hi Joanna,
Thank you for your answers and referencing the sections of the Interim Manual for Foreign Language. That answers my questions for the font attributes, the arrowhead, and the superscript.
However, I’m still confused with the enlarged brace. Primarily because my example is more complicated than the one shown in 18.3.9 of Braille Formats. First, if I am to follow that example, I will apparently need to move the “En” column to the left of the enclosed list. But secondly, and more importantly, it appears to me that the other three columns (Terminan En, Cambian and Ejemplos) relate to each other like rows in a table. I am not 100% sure that the data in the “En” column is meant to be a list, it looks more like a statement, so I was wondering if this table could be reformatted as a list table with the En column as a subheading and ignore the brace?
1) Braille Formats does not apply in the case of FOREIGN freestanding letters. See the Interim Manual for Foreign Language Braille Transcription, Section 3.4. These are the current foreign language rules now in effect. New BANA foreign language guidelines have not yet been approved.
2) The Interim Manual specifies that there is a space before and after the slash regardless of print. However, it is also acceptable to space the slash as it is generally done, which is to follow print. In this case, it’s your choice. Be sure to be consistent with spacing or not spacing the slash. In you example the slash is used to designate the translation of those individual words. Ignore the italics and the bold. The slash indicates the language shift and the print emphasis is ignored.
3) That is NOT a mathematical greater than sign. Those are right pointing arrowheads and they indicate that the words are derived from the previous form. This is a common notation in foreign language material. See Appendix G Symbols in Braille Formats. Scroll down to Arrows. It’s the second to last item in that chart. Insert a space before and after the arrowhead. Do not confuse this with an arrow. This is an arrowHEAD.
4) I would suggest that you divided the table into vertical sections to keep the original table format. The method for dividing tables is given in Braille Formats.
5) See 18.3.9 in Braille Formats and the accompanying example.
6) The superscript is a foreign abbreviation for ordinal numbers as is often done in English for lst, 2nd, 3rd with the st, nd, and rd in superscript position. See The Interim Manual See 6.1. It specifically gives the procedure for this.
–Joanna
My apologies. The pages I just sent were from a similar book without line numbers.
Attached is a scan with line numbers, footnotes and pictures.
edited by rsherwood12 on 6/21/2013Sure, here is a scan showing an example of footnotes and pictures.
Sorry for the unclear wording. By “keywords” I mean the words in the text that are emphasized with italics and are defined in Italian at the bottom of the page or illustrated with a picture.
Best,
RebeccaI need to see the actual print page with line numbers. I’m not sure what you calling a keyword either. Can’t picture it. So please post a print page that shows the exact situation you’re asking about.
This is the same situation as in the other question. Braille this as it the write-on lines weren’t there.
The braille formatting is just fine. I think the only thing you might be missing is the correct way to deal with write-on lines. Please see 10.5 and if there is some confusion there about how it applies to your print examples, please let us know and we’ll be glad to address it.
–Joanna
NONE of these questions should have write-on lines shown in braille in any way. There should be NO TN to show the number of write-on lines either. Please see Formats 10.5 and its examples. If that does not provide you with the answer you are looking for, please let us know and we’ll try to clarify.
Just the questions should be given with appropriate indention and runovers.
–Joanna
It is no wonder that you are confused. I have too many projects crossing my desk so I am the one that is confused. The situation is there are indeed blue words that are and are not underlined through out the glossary. The rest of the words are black with no underline with exception to the misprinted word I mentioned before. At least I had that part right. Again sorry for the confusion.
Thought about this some more. Write a TN that says all the blue words are underlined. Then just use the blue indicator for all those blue words that are also underlined. When you get to a word that is blue but NOT underlined, use the blue indicator, but precede that word with a TN that says that although the following word is blue, it is NOT underlined. At least that way, you are showing only one indicator. When you get to that black word that is also underlined, just show it as underlined. In that way, the braille reader will read exactly what the print reader sees.
Perhaps that will take care of the situation. Let us know!
–Joanna
I looked at formats 21.3.2 and I’ll bet you did too. The termination sign comes BEFORE the regular hyphen. Even thought the compound hyphen is not specifically mention, the termination sign still comes BEFORE the compound hyphen as well, as in your #1. Note that the compound hyphen is used INSTEAD of the regular hyphen when it is needed for clarity. Your #2 and #3 would be considered incorrect.
–Joanna
Yes, in this case follow the print for the typeface and use blue and underlining as in print. This is because the text specifically refers to these fonts attributes and gives a reason as well. However, text talks about blue type and underlined but your sample shows a word BOTH blue and underlined. What do you have there? Do not use both font attributes in the same word if at all possible. If you have blue words without underlining, just show those as blue. If all the underlined words are also blue, just show them as underlined and skip the blue. The text does NOT refer to words that are BOTH underlined and blue. If the boldface is not mentioned in the text, follow that guidelines that says to ignore it and ignore it. If the blue underlined words are significant and ALL of underlined words are also blue, do not show the blue, but write a TN that says all the underlined words are also blue.
If SOME underlined text is not also blue in print, let me know and please send a print example that shows ALL these characteristics as they appear in print.
–Joanna
1) The opening quote is considered to be part of the word, so the underline symbol is first, followed by the space, open quote and word, space termination sign. Otherwise, the open quote would be separated from the word by a space.
2) That would be either way. I would use contractions for the underlined words as well as everything else. This is about word USAGE, not spelling. This is not about how to spell the word WHOSE, for instance, but whether to use WHOSE or WHO’S. Likewise with YOU’RE and YOUR and IT’S AND ITS. I think using uncontracted braille for these words would be a bit of overkill, but it would not be incorrect if you chose to do so.–Joanna
