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  • in reply to: Math Symbols: BF vs. EBAE #21433

    See Section 1.3.1 for working with occasional Nemeth in a general textbook. This is NEW. See also Section 3.4. Also NEW. And Section 11.1.2, which states that all computations are transcribed in Nemeth. There are new provisions about beginning and ending Nemeth code symbols and transitioning in and out of Nemeth code for partially technical books that have only some Nemeth in them.

    Found all this in the Index under Nemeth code.

    Let us know if this helps.

    –Joanna

    in reply to: Math Symbols: BF vs. EBAE #21432

    Thank you for your timely response. Attached is a print example with an accompanying question.

    in reply to: Supplimental Volume? #21436

    Joanna,
    I mean that I would put the Envision It section, the full TOC, the glossary, the word list and the Vocabulary Handbook – in that order – into a supplemental volume. (The Vocabulary Handbook is numbered with the W.) Each unit (volume) has questions in it that refers to the Envision It section and the Vocabulary Handbook section. It seems redundant to me to include these sections (41 print pages) in each volume … but I will if necessary. That’s why I’m seeking an expert’s opinion.
    P.S. This is a sixth grade reading book. The order of the print is: Envision It, TOC, Units 1-3, Glossary, Word List and Vocabulary Handbook.

    Sharon

    in reply to: Supplimental Volume? #21435

    I’m having trouble following you. The problem here is that you have it right in front of you and I can’t see what you have. When you say you want to put all of “this material” in a supplemental volume, I don’t know which material you mean. Do you mean that Glossary material that you say is at the end of the book or the E-pages that begin each section? Are you saying that the E-pages are repeated in print at the beginning of each section? Or the E-pages are print just once at the beginning of the book? And what are the W pages?

    –Joanna

    in reply to: Guidelines 2011 – Columned Material #21418

    The new Formats now clarifies that unreleated columns are NOT a table, but lists that happen to be printed next to each other. That is a visual arrangement, nothing more. Formatting should reflect what something actually IS, not necessary just what it LOOKS LIKE. Unrelated columns may be printed to look like tables, but in fact they aren’t, and now that issue is simplied and clarified and lists that happen to be printed next to each other are brailled according to what they ARE, which is lists.

    –Joanna

    in reply to: Guidelines 2011 – Columned Material #21417

    Please see the attached for the sample page requested.

    in reply to: Rule 5? #21397

    These new guidelines provide specific guidance about special symbols. The particular symbols that need to be on a list symbols list are given in the section that applies to them. That’s why the math symbols used in spellers are given in the section on spellers.

    The General Purpose Symbols are just that–a list of just about ALL the symbols used in braille. These do not necessarily go on the special symbols page. They include punctuation and composition signs. Would you put a comma on the special symbols page? A capital sign?

    Look in the Index under Special symbols. You will see a list of the various sections that require special symbols, including Spellers. When working with material that applies to those sections, you’ll see which symbols are needed for that material.

    –Joanna

    in reply to: Colored Fonts and Boxes #21408

    The “Focus Skill” is actually an icon and the circle and star are part of its design. See Section 4.9 for icons–how they are formatted, when they are included or not. Colored fonts are shown ONLY when the color adds information. Read the sections that pertain to colors–Section 5.1.2 and and 5.3.

    –Joanna

    in reply to: Rule 5? #21396

    Take a look at page 17-11. (That’s page 11 in Section 17). Let us know if that’s the information you are looking for.

    –Joanna

    in reply to: Guidelines 2011 – Sidebars #21415

    Actually, the new 2011 Formats does address this issue of change of context at the top of a new braille page, but in a different way. The result is just about the same. If there is a change in context, such as the resumption of regular text following a sidebar, there would be a blank line on line 1 just as you have in your sample. A specific guidelines on that is not necessary. If text must be preceded by a blank line, then insert it at line 1 if necessary. Note that there is a specific guideline for headings and open box lines.

    Both headings and box lines announce a change of context. Section 4.3 specifically says headings can be placed on line 1 UNLESS THERE IS A RUNNING HEAD, and if so, the heading is on LINE 3, not lint 2, providing for a blank line preceding the heading. This means that the heading is considered enough of a change of context so that it can be line line 1. The guidelines for the boxing line is exactly the same. See Section 7.2. Also see the thread below title Box at top of print page. That one asks the same question from the perspective of boxing lines.

    Thank you very much for the print example. It was very helpful.

    –Joanna

    in reply to: How to make a brf interpoint? #21412

    I have been asked to answer this one.

    SAVING AS .BRF FROM AN .ABT YOU CREATED: This strips away all the underlying file structure that is uniquely .abt and thereby removes the conflict that would prevent such a file from being opened in another program, like DBT or MegaDots. That’s why we do it–to enable that braille file to work with different software. A .brf is just a file of ascii braille and form feeds every 25 lines. There is nothing left to conflict with DBT and that’s why it works. However, what is holding paragraphs in position at this point, is just position. All the paragraph structure is gone. And so are the interpoint settings, even though nothing has physicall7y changed in the file itself. Everything stays in position.

    Therefore, when sending a .brf, NEVER do any editing in the .brf format. Don’t even open it to look at it. Do everything in .abt. Save as .brf only when you are ready to send the braille file to its recipient. If you set it for interpoint in .abt, it will retain the interpoint in .brf for the recipient. In fact, delete the .brf right after you send it. Keep the .abt. If any subsequent editing is necessary, do that in the .abt and create another .brf. Don’t bother viewing the .brf. As long as your .abt is good, the .brf will be retain everything you did.

    WHEN EMBOSSING .BRF’s RECEIVED FROM ELSEWHERE THAT YOU DIDN’T CREATE–if the file was prepared as an interpoint file, it will retain that, just as a matter of where the pages break and the presence of a final even sided page at the end of the file. When you open this in Braille2000, as you have to in order to emboss it, the pages will be correct but the file will NOT have the interpoint setting even though it is, in fact, interpoint. If you have your embosser set up to recognize that interpoint setting, you may have a problem because your embosser will think it’s single-sided.

    You can open the .brf and save it as an .abt. In the .abt copy you can go to Adjust–Document and just click on interpoint. It might even already show that interpoint setting already, but you can change the setting if it doesn’t show interpoint. Then you can emboss from this .abt file that is now bearing the interpoint settings that the embosser wants to see.

    Please let me know if there are any problems with this and I will consult further and get clarification.

    –Joanna

    in reply to: Colored Fonts and Boxes #21407

    I am conferring on this one. I’ll hear back soon.

    –Joanna

    in reply to: Exercise numbers/letters circled or boxed #21410

    The ones I see over and over again in exercise materials, workbooks, questions after a story, test materials, etc. are always just a visual clue or eye-candy on the page. The only time I’ve seen it important to the material is in a math book. I’ve attached one page that has the question numbers in a box and one that has the answer choices circled.

    in reply to: box at top of print page AND top of braille page #21402

    Hi Joanna,

    Thanks for the explanation. I still don’t see wording that explicitly addresses boxes at the top of print pages starting at the top of a braille page, but I will take your word for it that that’s the spirit of the Guideline 7.2.1 a. “A top box line can appear on line 1 when a running head is not used and line 3 when a running head is used.” I was assuming that addressed the situation where the box appeared on line 1 with a continued print page number (in the middle of the print page), and the blank line required before the box appeared on the previous braille page.

    Would this also apply to other material that normally is preceded and followed by a blank line, i.e. an epigraph at the top of a print page? Normally, if the print page change indicator occurred in the middle of the braille page, there would be a blank line between it and the epigraph. However, if it falls at the top of a braille page without a running head, the epigraph would appear on line 1 with the new print page number. Do I have that right?

    Also, if the preceding material ended on line 25, would a box/epigraph begin on line 2 of the next page to include the required blank line?

    Sorry if my wording is confusing. I’m just trying really hard to make sure I understand when the guidelines apply or not.

    Thanks,
    Rebecca

    in reply to: Cast of characters #21405

    I can see whey it’s confusing. I was confused myself, but I now have clarification to share.

    The repeated material (i.e., cast of characters, pronunciation key, etc.) is placed at the end of the front matter in all appropriate volumes. The PRINT PAGE NUMBERS of these items are listed in print order on the title page. If there is more than one repeated item, like both cast of characters and pronunciation, these would be placed at the end of the front matter in the print page order that applies just to them, but both are at the end of the front matter. All the print page numbers on the title page are listed in print page order.

    Hope that helps.

    –Joanna

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