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Joanna E. Venneri
SpectatorI don’t think the old Formats mentioned circled item numbers either. The only reference to that seems to be in that example. With the lack of a specific rule or even a comment, my own judgment is that’s the way someone thought it should be done. What is the purpose of these shapes? Do they add to the meaning or are they simply a visual or decorative device to draw visual attention to the number of the item? Note that in several places in tne Formats, there is commentary about transcriber judgments, especially with regard to the omission or inclusion of font attributes.
Please send a print page and I’ll be glad to take a closer look.
–Joanna
Joanna E. Venneri
SpectatorHi Charles,
Yes, there is a grace period. Here’s how it works. Right NOW, transcribers are to finish any books already started using the old 1997 Formats. A new book can be started EITHER in the new Formats or the old. In other words, we MAY start a new book with the new 2011 Formats if desired. There will be an implementation date given by BANA and we think it will be January 1, 2013. It hasn’t been officially annoucned yet. Any book started after January 1, 2013 (or after whatever the implementation date is) MUST be done with the new 2011 Formats.
We will do our best to answer questions on both the old and new Formats here at the forum.
–Joanna
Joanna E. Venneri
SpectatorSee Section 7.2 about blank lines and boxes. When a print page starts on a new braille page and a box starts there as well, the top boxing line is on line 1 when no running head is used. So, in your second example, the top boxing line should be on line, with the usual 3 blank cells between the page number and the box line.
–Joanna
Joanna E. Venneri
SpectatorThanks for your patience. I now have a suggestion that comes from a truly higher authority, namely someone who helped write the new Formats. I am advised that much of the upcoming Early Literacy guidelines will refer back to our new guidelines. In the absence of a current Early Literacy document, there is enough in the guidelines themselves. See Section 1.6 on page size, line length and line spacing. Essentially, double spacing and uncontracted braille are agency decisions. so you need to have the agency (or the actual teacher) specify these things. There are no specific provisions for anything else, like transcriber’s notes. I suggest that the wording of TN’s match the vocabulary level of the surrounding text as much as possible. Follow the guidelines with regard to font attributes. The guidelines do encourage transcribers to make judgments. If the teacher or other appropriate person from the agency is available, you can utilize their directions as agency decisions.
Hope this helps.
Joanna
Joanna E. Venneri
SpectatorThank you for your reply.
StacyJoanna E. Venneri
SpectatorI have posted a personal message regarding this post. Click on my profile, which is just to the right of your user name and from there you’ll see a personal message inbox.
–Joanna
Joanna E. Venneri
SpectatorI am sorry for the delay. I will be answering the questions you have sent later today. I have been away and not able to access my 2997 Formats book.
–Joanna
Joanna E. Venneri
SpectatorWow thank you for getting back to me so quickly. The index is very nice! I searched in the portfolio on my desktop and it didn’t find it, so thank you.
Joanna E. Venneri
SpectatorThanks, Joanna, I’ll watch for your post
Joanna E. Venneri
SpectatorI can’t give you a complete answer, but I will get some further information and post it here as I get it. If you have an an urgent transcription to start now, please continue with the guidelines you have been using. I do know that the BANA Early Literaracy Committee has been waiting for the new guidelines so that it can update early grade requirements. As I get more information about updated guidelines for early grades, I will post them.
–Joanna
Joanna E. Venneri
SpectatorCeleste is a prisoner at Mt. View, she is relaying messages. She said YES they are using NLS Braille Instruction manual 2009. They could not find the answer in Braille formates.
Joanna E. Venneri
SpectatorAll the comments I’ve heard about the new Formats have been positive. You’re the first official question our forum. You follow the print with regard to copyright information. If it has only the word “copyright,” braille that. If both the word and the symbol, braille that and (surprise!) if just the symbol, braille just the symbol. Follow print. Also, follow print for spacing. Sometimes in print there is a space between the copyright symbol and the word. Sometimes not. Follow the print. This also is applied regarding the spacing between the copyright symbol and the year.
–Joanna
Joanna E. Venneri
SpectatorThe title page does include the “© with the date” just not the word “copyright”. And thank you for getting back to me on this, I really like the way the new formats is set up. 😉
Joanna E. Venneri
SpectatorI need some clarification here. This is a textbook. Which rules are you using? You refer to Literary Rule 19. Are you referring to the NLS Braille Instruction manual? I was expecting to see Braille Formats as your reference. Please help me by explaining your reasoning here.
–Joanna
Joanna E. Venneri
SpectatorI have attached a suggested answer for the timeline question.
–Joanna
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