[Joanna E. Venneri]

So sorry for the delay. I have conferred with Lynnette Taylor, the chair of the BANA Formats committee, who confirms my understanding of the intent here. The lapse here is an omission, not really a contradiction.

7.7.1c contains another layer to this exception of blank lines between interior and exterior box lines and Sample 7-3 is correct. When an interior (top) box line immediately follows an exterior (top) box line, there is no blank line inserted before that top interior box line. That is the exception stated in 7.2.1f. Omitted from this is the other half of this exception–when an exterior (bottom) box line immediately follows a (bottom) interior box line, there is also no blank line inserted. That is the general exception to blank line before and after box lines–when they immediately follow or precede EXTERIOR box lines, there is no blank line between.

Here is the second layer of that exception. When interior box lines (either top or bottom) are NOT followed or preceded by exterior box lines, there is a blank line as there would be if the interior box were not nested inside another box. That is what Sample 7-3 shows and this clarification should have been repeated elsewhere as needed.

I hope that helps. If it is still confusing, please let us know.

–Joanna

[Joanna E. Venneri]

I agree with you. This brief listing couldn’t be used by any reader, print or braille, to locate anything in the book. It’s just a list of topics. I would transcribe it at printed only in the first volume only and treat the main contents as usual, transcribing the complete contents in the first volume and only the contents for subsequent volumes in those volumes.

–Joanna

[Joanna E. Venneri]

It looks like you have the one title page for this compilation. Format the title page to accommodate the small size paper you are using. There is also a single copyright date given for the compilation. Use that on the braille title page. The other copyright dates and any other information that doesn’t fit on the main title page can be transcribed on additional title pages as needed. Use only the most recent copyright dates for those copyrights. See Formats Section 2 for general title page guidelines. including the usage of the only the most recent copyright date.

–Joanna

[Joanna E. Venneri]

I don’t have good news yet. Please regard the posted Errata as a work in progress. I have been told that there are technical problems causing the delay. When these issues are resolved, there will be a .pdf that can be downloaded and printed. The Formats document can’t be edited, but the Errata will be able to be used to make notes as needed.

–Joanna

[Joanna E. Venneri]

I have asked for further information about this and I’ll be back as soon as I hear back.

Thanks for your patience.

–Joanna

[Joanna E. Venneri]

I would treat that part as numbered references. See Formats 16.1.4, which states that such notes can appear at the foot of the page or at the margin. These notes are at the margin.

Begin the boxed material and use the numbered reference indicator [braille]77#a, [braille]77#b, etc. where indicated in the print. When this material is done, entered a closing box line and insert a blank line, because a closing box line is always followed by a blank line.

Continue to braille the material on this print page, even though you may want to insert a braille page break to accommodate the diagram material. When this PRINT page is completed add the separation line for notes (Formats 16.4.1).

Immediately following the separation line, HOW TO FIND MAIN IDEAS heading in cell 5. Immediately following that, braille the notes in 1-3 as given in this Formats section. In this case, shows the reference number first, even though it is not printed that way, because it is intended to be read that way and to accommodate Formats, which also speaks to how this material is read.
[braille]77#a _.,/rategy ,id5tify etc.

Note that some of the reference numbers are repeated in the boxed material and should be brailled as printed. The actual reference notes are printed once and also should be brailled as printed.

–Joanna

[Joanna E. Venneri]

Thanks for the interesting questions.

1. See Sample 2-9 in Formats for placement of the transcriber’s name on line after “transcribed by”

2. The termination sign is not itself a font attribute, so it is never grouped with font attributes. As you noted, it has many uses, only one of which is with font attributes, so it is always grouped with the miscellaneous signs or by itself if all the other signs in use can be categorized. I don’t think it fits into a category.

–Joanna

[Joanna E. Venneri]

Please look at the Literary Braille Forum at the “Letter indicator” post where this entire issue has been recently discussed.

–Joanna

[Joanna E. Venneri]

I am confirming a response with a colleague. Back soon.

–Joanna

[Joanna E. Venneri]

Thanks for your help!!! and super-lightning fast response!

[Joanna E. Venneri]

Here I am again. The math expert confirms this answer.

–Joanna

[Joanna E. Venneri]

Use CBC for this because these are the keystrokes that would be used. Begin CBC at the hashtag and end it BEFORE the period. Technically CBC is in Math territory, so I will ask the Math expert to confirm this.

–Joanna

[Joanna E. Venneri]

I conferred with Lynnette Taylor and our responses are attached.

–Joanna

[Joanna E. Venneri]

The print page is very helpful. Formats refers only to alphabetical letter divisions and these are not letters. I would treat these as headings, specifically cell-5 for the larger red print and cell-7 for the smaller print. Guide words are optional in an index. See Formats 22.3.2 which states an agency may choose to omit braille guide words in certain alphabetic references such as an index. Personally, Given the nature of this material, I would omit guide words unless requested to include them.

–Joanna

[Joanna E. Venneri]

Thanks for sending the print pages. First, I do not think that the letters themselves are displayed because there is no surrounding text. From the print pages you sent, the letters themselves ARE the text. So, do not treat the letters as displayed. These letters are a series of blocked paragraphs, with some occasional indented paragraphs within the body of the letter. Since the closings for all the letters is at the left margin, these are not treated as an attribution, but simply as very short blocked paragraphs. Each closing is on the same print page as its associated letter, so there is no issue with page change indicators.

If the closing falls on the next BRAILLE page, I would treat it as any other blocked paragraph that starts on a new braille page. Since the closing is NOT an attribution, the guidelines for attributions do not apply. Consider also that the text of the letters is clear and consistent, and the meaning should be clear to the reader as the text is read.

–Joanna

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