Lindy Walton
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ModeratorHi Julie. I can't say I have ever seen a number line like these, where there is an additional arrowhead printed on the line. Does anyone else have experience with these?
Since distinctive coordinate markers which are superposed on a number line are moved to the line above, directly over the scale marks they cover, I suggest brailling a one-cell arrowhead (right- or left- pointing) above the appropriate location as you would any of the other markers we are given in TG 6.5.1.4.
Lindy Walton
ModeratorFollow Braille Formats regarding the construction of the table, but follow Nemeth Code rules for items within the table. A blank space that means "information is missing" is brailled as a Nemeth general omission symbol, a printed dash is brailled as a long dash. Since Nemeth Code does not provide for blank space meaning "no data," follow Braille Formats for that (dot 5s.)
Lindy Walton
ModeratorI'm weighing in with another alternative. It would be possible to do 8 x 6 in a literary transcription
just using the multiplication sign provided in an Appendix to the Guidelines. They are included so that for simple expressions the
Nemeth open and close indicators would not be necessary. You would of course use upper cell numbers.Lindy Walton
ModeratorThank you for all of your help. I've attached a scan of p 190 with the shaded circled letters. I was wondering about the large H's. Thanks again.
Lindy Walton
ModeratorIt looks to me like this illustration is attempting to replicate the 3-D molecule models that students use in the classroom, hence the circles around the atoms and the smaller hydrogen atom. In your braille graphic, you can ignore the circles around the letters, and the sizing is of no importance.
The shading is something I have never seen before. I think it is fine for you just to mention in a transcriber's note the fact that the rings are shaded in print.
The 2-dimensional orientation can be "tipped" which will allow you to use some horizontal and/or vertical bonds, along with a few oblique bonds necessary to complete each ring. The partially hidden hydrogens are, again, the print copy's attempt at making this appear three-dimensional. This is the CH3 molecule, so just make a carbon with three hydrogens, each with a single bond.
These bonds aren't really accurate. Just braille what you see (make them all single bonds). I think this is just a general illustration, not an accurate chemistry book as you say.
... Regarding the other page not shown, I'm not familiar with what you describe ("some of the circled letters are shaded around the letter itself within the circle"). I need to see the page in order to make a judgment -- can you attach it, too?
Lindy Walton
ModeratorThanks for the input. I read the code, but for some reason it wasn't clicking. What can I say: It was a Friday?!
Lindy Walton
ModeratorHi Julie. For the reader's benefit, since this is not a math book, I think it would be a better decision to follow EBAE's suggestions here. I would braille
1. Subtract 192°F from 212°F:
just as it appears in print, followed by a transcriber's note (in 7-5) saying something like this:
212ºF (boiling point of water at sea level) minus 192ºF (boiling point of water at your altitude) equals 20ºF (temperature difference)
using literary braille rules throughout.
Lindy Walton
ModeratorHi, this is Betty replying instead of Lindy.
See Rule VIII, Section 51 of the Nemeth Braille Code. Since the abbreviation, m, is not followed by a period (that applies to it)it must be preceded by the English-letter indicator (dots 56). The same applies to the abbreviation, g, for grams. Even when a superscript is applied to the abbreviation, you must still use the letter indicator.
See also Rule IX, Section 55c.ii. for the use of contractions to, into, and by with abbreviations.
Hope this clarifies your questions.
BettyLindy Walton
ModeratorHi Lindy, I've some questions about Nemeth with dots 56.
If I've m/cm2 (2 = superscript) does the letter m takes dots 56?
If I've m/cm does the letter m takes dots 56?
If I've m/m2 (2 = superscript) Do the two letters m take dots 56?
If I've this sentence: change it to g/cm, do I uncontracted the to? Does the letter g takes dots 56?
If I've 3 m+7 m Does the first m takes dots 56 before the mathematical sign?Thanks and have a good day!
Lindy Walton
ModeratorOk, Lindy. Thanks!
Lindy Walton
ModeratorGood question! This is a question for the Braille Formats chair. I interpret this to mean the entire Glossary section, but I understand your uncertainty and hesitation to apply this in this manner. I will post your question under the Braille Formats forum. Watch for a reply there.
Lindy Walton
ModeratorRegarding Section 9.1, General Rules ... If the abbreviation/acronym has chemical meaning (such as DNA) then follow the rule stated in the Chemistry Code. If the abbreviation/acronym does not have to do with chemistry (such as ISBN), follow Nemeth Code rules. If in doubt, I would recommend following Chemistry Code. Your list makes sense to me -- the first half can be double-capped and punctuated in the literary mode; the second list should be individually capitalized and punctuated mathematically. Keep track of your decisions so your transcription is consistent.
For new readers: be sure to read further in Section 9 to see how the Chemistry Code differs from the Nemeth Code regarding physical states (9.2), SI units of measurement (9.3), chemical groups (9.4), and concentration of solutions (9.5).Lindy Walton
ModeratorYes, if the closing parenthesis is at the base-line of writing, which I assume it is, you must return the reader to the base-line by brailling a base-line indicator (dot 5) before the parenthesis. Section 73 of the Nemeth Code describes this concept.
Lindy Walton
ModeratorThanks Lindy! Have another question for you if I have
(Ka) the letter a is in superscript do I add the dot 5 after the letter a just before the end parenthesis.
The duxbury braille translator put a dot 5 before the parenthesis.
Thanks and have a good day!
Bye! Bye!Lindy Walton
ModeratorI neglected to mention that --in this case-- S is the abbreviation for "sinister" which means "situated to the left" in this context.
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