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ModeratorRegardless of their meaning and purpose (here they are chemical arrows, not bonds) these arrows must be drawn in order to convey the circular layout of the print drawing.
Lindy Walton
ModeratorOK. So those arrows are not considered bonds?
Thank you so much.
LauraLindy Walton
ModeratorThe errata/addenda to the lesson book is posted on the NFB website--here is the URL:
https://nfb.org/math-transcribing
**BUT** you may want to wait as a new release is about to be approved. The target date for the update is 2-1-2013.Lindy Walton
ModeratorYes, this expression is a mixed number as the Nemeth code defines one. You can see examples of a radical in the numerator of a *simple fraction in the lesson book, page 116, example (10) in Section 83.b. Yours will use mixed number fraction indicators instead of simple fraction indicators.
Lindy Walton
ModeratorThese are grouping symbols (angle brackets), referring to points on a coordinate axis.
Lindy Walton
ModeratorYour questions are important; thank you for posting them.
In the Nemeth instruction manual, you can assume that "blocked" examples are taken from the middle of a paragraph. You will notice that other examples in this section illustrate new paragraphs both in the print example and the simbraille transcription.
In example (3), if the expressions were embedded you are correct that it would not make sense to begin a new line with each expression. In this case, however, the expressions are displayed. Each displayed expression begins in the primary display cell, cell 3.
Lindy Walton
ModeratorHi Susan. In the example you posted, the text in the remark in the yellow box explains exactly what the "BIG -->" indicates. You can omit "BIG -->" without comment. Of course, the remark is talking about the print sign and may have no real meaning regarding the braille symbol, but you should not omit the remark.
Lindy Walton
ModeratorThank you, Lindy. This is very helpful. I will use the tilde, as you suggest.
Lindy Walton
ModeratorThe change was made in order to place each mathematical expression in the primary display cell. None of these expressions has a runover. The example on page 121 shows five expressions separated by commas; the example on page 123 shows four expressions separated by commas. The original publication treats the displayed material as one expression, which is incorrect.
Lindy Walton
ModeratorThank you so much.
LauraLindy Walton
ModeratorPatty, I see what you mean and am glad you pointed this out. I got distracted trying to optimize the number of cells available on the line. The displayed format I used here is not the Nemeth Code format, but is borrowed from BF2011, which is why there is a blank line before and after the displayed material. However, BF 9.2.2.f does say that "the adjusted left margin for displayed material in exercises is cell 5." So, YES, please indent the nested list section two more cells to the right: 5-11; 7-11; 9-11. I still would retain the blank lines to set it apart. We may hear some disagreement to this point ...
In a minute I will correct my original reply and the attachment, so those who read this in the future will get the right information. Thanks, Patty!
Lindy Walton
ModeratorHi Patty. It's good to come up with a format for this right away, and check to see if you can continue to apply it as the guided practices vary throughout the book.
I have a long answer to your question.Since we cannot easily apply the usual Nemeth formats to this one, I am going to go out on a limb and suggest a format that reflects some of the new layouts given to us in Braille Formats 2011. I think you will find the result to be easy to read, with the illustration clearly belonging to the itemized problem, and can be confidently applied to similar problems that may be more involved later in the book.
The bigger picture is that, in 1-3 (NC itemized), braille the numbered problem and its conclusion.
In this example, that will be "1. Evaluate {28+[(2x4^2)/8]}. So, {28+[(2x4^2)/8]} = ____."Interrupt before "So, ..." with the guided practice portion, using the ideas behind displayed material (with indented right margin) and nested lists from BF2011. I think this is what your colleague was suggesting. Like this:
With a blank line before and after the five-step guided practice (BF), put "Write the expression. Find 4^2. Multiply. Divide. Add." each in cell 5;
put each of the five math problems in cell 7;
put the comments in cell 9.
This particular example has no runovers in the guided portion, but I expect you will come across some that do, in which case *all runovers to the displayed portion will go in cell 11 (BF). Ignore the purple lines drawn below the steps.After a blank line (BF), "So, ..." will go in cell 3--the runover cell for the itemized problem (NC).
I have attached a print rendition of this format, to --hopefully-- clarify what I am suggesting.
Your ideas: Alignment as in print is reserved for problems that need to be solved vertically (spatially). This example does not meet that criterion. Reserve the use of guide dots for tables.
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edited by Lindy on 11/28/2012Lindy Walton
ModeratorThank you, Lindy. As always a great help!!
Lindy Walton
ModeratorFirst, you need to determine if it is necessary to retain the boldface. Read the accompanying text -- is the non-regular type really necessary for the understanding of the problem or sample? If you decide that it is needed, then I would explain in a transcriber's note. Something like "Numerals 4 and 5/8 are printed in boldface type."
Lindy Walton
ModeratorHello!
I have a question related to this previous post. I have an equation below:(4 x 5/8)+2 = ____
The 4 and the 5/8 is in bold print above. 5/8 is a fraction with the numerator on top of the denominator. How would you present the bold indicator with the fraction?
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