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  • in reply to: word shapes in spelling exercise #21577

    These shapes are concerned with the physical appearnace of the print word. My feeling is that this material is inappropriate for braille. I did confer on this with some REAL experts at BANA and this view is confirmed. It was recommended that this material be omitted with a transcriber’s note that explains it refers to the appearance of actual print and is not appropriate for braille. It was also suggested that if the material accounts for major portions of the text that the agency might be informaed that there are recurrcing situations throughout the book that are inappropriate for braille.

    –Joanna

    in reply to: Special Symbols #21576

    What the software does is irrelevant. I would follow the example in Formats.

    –Joanna

    in reply to: Headings #21572

    Regarding the first part of your question about breaking centered headings that fall on more than one line–the trasncriber decides what is balanced and logical. That is why these are called guidelines. I would look over all the examples of centered headings in Formats to get an idea of how balanced and logical headings might be determined.

    As for the second question, connected headings refers to headings connected by concept and meaning, not necessarily physically connected in print. There is no boxed material in those headings. That is purely a decorative design. A box sets of text from surrounding text. There is nothing set off there.

    –Joanna

    in reply to: reviews not included #21570

    This is actually unchanged from previous Formats. “Reviews” in a textbook usually are nothing more than advertising. This guidelines also conforms to Library of Congress standards.

    –Joanna

    in reply to: Reproduction Notice #21560

    That’s why we’re here! And thank you for that interesting question. In researching it, I have learned about that topic than I ever thought possible.

    –Joanna

    in reply to: Reproduction Notice #21559

    Awesome. Now I get it! Thank you for clearing that up for me.

    in reply to: Page Numbers #21551

    Section 1.12 covers letter/number print page combinations. Example 1-16 shows various print configurations and braille solutions, but none specifically with a space. However, using what we have and what we know, spaces are never used in print page numbers and the hyphens that do commonly appear in these print combinations are omitted in braille.

    The suggest for these pages is to close up the space [simbraille],,sc;vii[/simbraille]. The letter sign cancels the double caps.

    Joanna

    in reply to: blank lines on title page #21538

    Once again, it doesn’t matter what it says in any rule prior to 2011 Formats. And once again I’m sorry but I just don’w see what difference it makes as to whether you start at the top or the bottom of the page. Maybe I’m missing something.

    But I do also repeat once again, that current 2011 Formats simply says that the blank lines should be distributed evenly as much as possible. It says nothing about where you start from.

    –Joanna

    in reply to: embedded TNs and punctuation #21556

    It depands on the reason for the TN and the type of information is conveys. Do you have an instance that you can ask about?

    –Joanna

    in reply to: blank lines on title page #21540

    So it does not matter whether the blank lines between segments are inserted starting from the top or starting from the bottom?

    in reply to: Uncontracted Braille Volumes — use of Letter Sign #21543

    Thank you Joanna,

    “m in numbers” is when the text refers to a letter (m) in a word (numbers). So, we both agree that the letter indicator isn’t necessary in most situations.

    Katrina

    in reply to: blank lines on title page #21539

    2011 Formats supercedes EVERYTHING in previous editions of Formats and EVERYTHING PERTAINING TO FORMATTING in EBAE. That includes the Instruction Manual. 2011 Formats is the ONLY current authority for formatting practices and decisions. Formats 2011 Section 2.3.3e says that blank lines are inserted in between segments and should be distributed as evenly as possible.

    –Joanna

    in reply to: special symbols miscellaneous “category” #21547

    It is not necessary to use the Miscelleneous heading when there are no other categories.

    –Joanna

    in reply to: Cross-reference in an Index #21537

    Hi Betty,

    I’m really glad you sent the print page. This rule says 3 different things about cross references.

    First, a cross reference with no page number that is shown following an entry must be brailled as part of the entry. That is what I see on this print page. Each cross reference follows a single entry, which may be a main entry or subentry. Each of these should be considered part of that entry and continued on the same line just as the rule says, as if it were part of that entry.

    Seond, a cross-reference WITHIN a subentry must be braille as part of the subentry. I don’t think I see any like that in your print page, but these would also be part of that entry if there were any.

    Third, when a cross reference is shown AT THE END OF A LISTING OF SUBENTRIES, it is brailled as an additional subentry. Your cross references follow individual entries. The ones in the Formats examples are at the end of the group of subentries.

    To clarify, the Formats examples shows the subentries under each main entry and separates them with a semicolon, instead of printing each on a new line. It’s a very common arrangement. But those are all subentries just the same, and the cross references appear at the very end of that listing of subs. And that’s why it is brailled as a new subentry in the example. This is not the same situation that you have in your print example.

    Hope this helps.

    –Joanna

    in reply to: Contents #21528

    In order to assess how to handle the extranous material I need to see what it looks like. I need to see the entire print page so I can see how the different types of material printed on it relate to each other, especially if it’s a table of contents and some of the material is not part of the table of contents.

    Please scan and post a print page or two.

    Thanks.

    –Joanna

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