[Joanna E. Venneri]

Thank you! Use your first method, use the bold only for the words and NOT for the single letters and of course NO bold for the r and l single letters that begin the print statement–just letter signs for all these. A single letter that means a letter does not have emphasis, even when present in print. There are a couple of exceptions but that is rare and we’re not going there!

So use your first option.

Thanks for the print!

–Joanna

[Joanna E. Venneri]

I have to see the print because I have to see EXACTLY what is emphasized and how. The ascii just lets me see the braille, not what it came from.

–Joanna

[Joanna E. Venneri]

You’ve certainly got a lot of question in this one post!

I’m sorry you haven’t heard from Literary about O grandma. I have alerted Literary that there’s a question waiting. Let’s see about the response there.

I really need to see the print pages that your format questions address if I am to attempt to provide answers and not just guesses. The first situation you describe with the Unit or chapter title, picture and caption spread across 2 or more print pages is quite common, but it takes many different forms. There is no one answer, which is why is it not specifically address in Formats. Please post a scan of those pages so that I can see exactly what you are seeing. Formatting decisions are based on viewing, analyziing and INTERPRETING the print page material, so I need to see it. The resulting formatting decision is based on pertinent guidelines within Formats.

The is also true of your 5-5 directions question. I need to see the page. Usually, the exercise items follow the directions. so it depends on the purpose of those bulleted items. Are they a continuation of the directions? Are they some kind of displayed material? Answer choices? I have to be able to see the page.

I’ll look forward to making suggestions about these interesting questions.

–Joanna

[Joanna E. Venneri]

Great, thank you!

Rebecca

[Joanna E. Venneri]

Hi again, Joanna! I am happy to be stuck with you in both Formats and Foreign Language. You are a great help!

To follow up on my table of contents question, when there is a range of pages listed in the print TOC, should this be retained in braille, or should only the first page be listed? For example,

Unita 6 “””””””” 34-39
or
Unita 6 “”””””””””” 34

Thanks,
Rebecca

[Joanna E. Venneri]

Hi Joanna,
Thank you for responding so promptly to my question. For some reason I didn’t get a notification from the Forum when you replied, so I’m just responding now that I found your response on the Forum.

As requested, I’m attaching a .pdf of the page with the arrowheads. They appear in the entry for Unita 13. I’m wondering if I should just use the arrowhead symbols $[ and $o and an embedded TN stating that’s what they are. Since there’s no explanation in print, this would be giving the braille reader the same information as the sighted reader. What do you think?

Thanks much,
Rebecca

[Joanna E. Venneri]

This can vary, but to start, it would depend on whether thee is a heading in print. If there is simply a list of other books with no print heading, do not insert a heading. If this list is the only thing on the page and it has a print heading, a centered heading would probably work well.

There is not a specific rule about this as far as I know.

–Joanna

[Joanna E. Venneri]

This is word/letter puzzle. Take a hike over to Section 19.6 and use the guidelines there. The example given there does not match your situation exactly, but it can be generally used. Treat each missing letter likea worda in a vocabulary list and enclose the group in a box. Note that the box is mentioned specifically in the print. Write a TN to explain that the letter indicator and caps are not used with the letters. Also explain that a single hyphen is used to indicate each missing letter.

–Joanna

[Joanna E. Venneri]

Let’s just look at the 10.3.3 actually says. Numbered or lettered directions are in 1-5. IF additional paragraphs are present, they are in 7-5. If additional paragraphs are NOT present, nothing happens! The numbered directions remain in 1-5 because their exercises items are the subentries in 3-5. The additional paragraphs in directions has nothing to do with it.

If you have a specific situation that is causing confusion on this point, please send the actual print page and we can look at this again.

–Joanna

[Joanna E. Venneri]

I think this is more of formatting issue than a foreign language issue. In any case, you’re stuck with me since I’m the moderator of both Formats and Foreign Language. In foreign language we generally follow Formats, except where something specific to foreign language makes it necessary to do something else. There are no foreign language exceptions that apply here, so this is just about Formats.

Unita must be centered as you did in your “b” braille file. Unit headings are specifically required to be centered in Contents. So that takes care of that.

Titolo (Title) CANNOT be used as an identifier because an identifier is used ONLY in connection with numbered main entries. So even though Titolo is [u]repeated [/u]in each main entry, it is not [u]numbered[/u], so you just don’t have an identifier here.

Thank you so much for sending the print and the braille samples. That is very helpful.

–Joanna

[Joanna E. Venneri]

Hi Rebecca,

Probably arrowheads and this probably means those bi-directional arrows. If at all possible, please send the print page where this appears so I can get a context. I may want to ask around on this one.

Thanks!

–Joanna

[Joanna E. Venneri]

Joanna,
Thanks so much for your input. I have in fact transcribed another Scripture and used the exact format you are speaking of. Verse numbers on the right margin, on the first line of each verse, and always having 2 blank cells to the left of the longest verse number on the braille page. I kind of like that format. And it was pretty obvious what to do. It worked well with that particular religious text. As recommended in Formats, I put the change on the TRanscribers Notes page in the “t” pages.

I’m thinking about the commentaries with this though. Are they going to follow the “rule” of having 2 blank cells to the left of the longest verse number on the braille page? Or are they going to use all 40 cells on the line? In the other Scripture I did, the “Bhagavad Gita”, there were no commentaries. Do you all have a recommendation for this?

Thanks for your input. I like the idea of putting the verse numbers on the right margin. It seems like a very “braille-reader-friendly” thing to do…..

[Joanna E. Venneri]

Yes, that’s correct. Start the new indented paragraph on line 2.

–Joanna

[Joanna E. Venneri]

Thank you! This is VERY helpful. Just what I was hoping for.

I’ll study this and be back soon.

–Joanna

[Joanna E. Venneri]

I’m going to see if I can attach a sample page. I think I did it. Let me know if it doesn’t come through!

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