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There is another post with the same question. I am consulting about the answers and I’ll post that as soon as I have it. Thanks for the great question. You’re not the only one asking the same thing!
–Joanna
I have deleted my previous post to this question because I blew it! I didn’t see the second page to your attachment. Please disregard what I said there if you had read already, and I’ll be be soon with a better answer.
–Joanna
I agree with your solution. Since this is the ONLY place in the volume where the Nemeth notation is needed, place your transcriber’s note before the table as you gave it. Then use the beginning and end Nemeh indicators right there in the table where they are needed. There are only two columns, so I think it will fit in the second column. And not to be picky, I think there IS provision for subscript notation. The provision is to use Nemeth for it. And they even tell you how.
–Joanna
This is a very good question, but I don’t see displayed material on these pages. Text that is printed with a font attribute is not necessarily displayed. Please review the fundamentals in displayed material in 9.1.1, especially the print examples that are shown. There are probably formatting decisions that need to be made regarding the font attributes, but that’s all I see here. Even though displayed text is often characterized by font attributes, it is NOT true that any text that happens to be printed in a different attribute is automatically considered displayed, because of the attribute.
If that explanation isn’t working for you, please feel free to indicate the text that you feel is displayed and it can be discussed further.
–Joanna
Not having seen the actual print, but going on what you describe, it sounds just like 2.8.1c–advertising and blurbs and it should be omitted. If this had been another type of material that clearly should be included and simply does not carry print page numbering, then 1.10.6, unnumbered pages would apply. You can simply omit this material.
–Joanna
I don’t see superscript numbers. I wonder if I could see an image of the actual print page, not copy. This would enable me to see the context. It would enable me to see whether the rules for line numebered text apply, for instance. I can’t tell from this.
However, my best guess is that the superscript can be isgnored and this is most certainly is NOT line numbered text. I would follow print and enter the numbers preceding each sentence as given. Follow print for paragraphing, meaning do NOT start a new paragraph for each numbered item. If there is not punctuation between the number the sentence that follows, just leave a space in braille. I don’t see a space between number 7 and the sentence, but I assumle that is a typo because the rest of the numbers are spaced.
–Joanna
This is an unusual print configuration in several respects, particularly in that the numbered items appear to be source information about the exercise item. In a case like this, I suggest establishing a format that is consistent and based on the guidelines and the reader will see that pattern.
The issue is not that the indentions are the same, but that the RUNOVERS are the same based on the number of levels. In the Louisa May Alcott situation I see a series of displayed paragraphs all on the same level. I think it best to keep this simple and since I personally read these paragraphs as being on the same level, the runovers and indentions will be the same. In this way, there are only two levels, the numbered and lettered items. The numbered item is 1-5 and the letter item is 3-5.
I like 10.7 for this. It deals with the displayed paragraphs in item 5 and the displayed poetry in item 6. The actual directions are blocked in cell 5 and the displayed paragraphs are in 7-5 with a blank line in between them. See Examples 10-3 and 10-4.
–Joanna
Sorry for the delay in responding. I have been away attending the recent BANA meeting. Thank you for the additional print examples. I will be back shortly with a suggestion.
–Joanna
Joanna,
I need to ask another question in regards to the level settings on this exercise question. I am talking about the last exercise question that I posted in the first attached example.
To be consistent with all our subdivisions or (answers) for our main questions shouldn’t they always have the same starting cell? Ex:
cell 3 regardless of runover?
A)
B) …I attached another example to see if this one would also fall under the same settings.
My thoughts on the first exercise question in the new attachment is:
5) from … set at 1-7 main item
Read … 5-7 sub-subdivision
blank
Louisa May Alcott … is a displayed para so I should set this in a blocked 5-5 or para 7-5?
blank
Which part … 5-7 sub-subdivision
A) spending
B) … this is my subdivision (I was told that my answers are always the subdivision of my main) setting at 3-7I didn’t see this second post until after I had answered the first one. I am unfamiliar with this sy;mbol. I thought it might be an IPA symbol, but I don’t see it listed there. Does this textbook identify this symbol by name? If so, just use the words to identify it. When ths symbols appears in the text you can use an embedded TN at the location and enclose the name of this symbol in the TN. If you can’t find a name for the symbol, simply identify it as an unknown print symbol with an embedded TN.
–Joanna
Sorry! I’m at NBA conference and I’ve been in meetings all day. I can’t help without seeing the entire print page. I have no context for this symbol and I can’t tell what it could be in isolation from the material it is printed with.
If it isn’t too late, I’ll be glad to look at the print page.
–Joanna
I would suggested Section 11.16 Listed Table Format. You will have to adapt the provisions given to allow for the number of levels. The second row heading shown, for instance, would be a very long cell-5 heading under the first column heading Content Descriptions. You can block the bulleted items in cell 7 and then proceed to the second column. The second column could be done as a nested list with the appropriate runovers, since is goes to 3 levels.
Follow the same given the in Formats and be sure to adapt it to the number of levels in this situation. You will not be able to follow the guidelines exactly as given for runovers. That’s why these are called guidelines. They are to be adapted to the situation you have.
The only other suggested I could make would be to use facing pages (Sec. 11.13).
–Joanna
Yes. It means just what it says. Don’t change anything. This is a change from the old formats rules, which did allow for simple rewording. That’s gone. So don’t do it!
–Joanna
Use 10.3.3 here. Don’t you think that the Ex. 10=3 that follows looks EXACTLY like your first exercise? You have numbered or lettered directions with ADDITIONAL PARAGRAPHS. Note that 10.4.2 covers and exercise with subentries ONLY. There are no additional paragraphs.
Ex. 10-3 covers your first exercise exactly. The directions are 1-5, the answer choices are 3-5 and the additional paragraph (Use adjectives to describe …) is 7-5.
Your second exercise is more complicated because it has an additional level. However, I think you can apply the same guidelines here. You have an 3 levels, so the runover is in cell 7. Item 4) from … is in 1-7, although I doubt there would be a runover. The additional paragraph, Look at this.. is 9-7, the numbered items 1. 2. etc. are 3-7. The next additional paragraph is 9-7 and the lettered items A) B) are 5-7.
–Joanna
