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  • in reply to: Brief Table of Contents #21743

    Follow print. The entire brief table of contents is transcribed as printed with nothing inserted or included in it. The general contents follows, on a new braille page. Only the portion of general contents that pertains to the current volume is transcribed. For subseuqent volumes, see d. The brief table of contents is not repeated in subseuqnet volumes. The portion of the general contents that pertains to the current volume is used for subsequent volumes. The only time the brief contents is transcribed is in its entireity in Vol. 1.

    –Joanna

    in reply to: Author Segment #21731

    I conferred with Lynnette on this one. She says:

    The intent was that just the name would be on the first title page. If you look at 2.4.2a you will see the same example with all the degrees and affiliations for the second title page.

    –Joanna

    in reply to: ditto in italian #21726

    Ok!
    Here’s a copy of the page:

    in reply to: ditto in italian #21725

    I have to see the print page. You’ve said you’re not sure it’s a ditto symbol. I’m not either unless I see it. Please scan and post the print page. Thank you.

    –Joanna

    in reply to: termination sign with dash #21715

    I didn’t realize that the new format guidelines are available online. I’ve been waiting for the print edition. Where would I find the online edition? Thanks

    –Susan

    in reply to: termination sign with dash #21714

    It looks strange because it IS strange. It’s new and different to me too. But just by luck, I am doing a language arts workbook full of single and double underlines and I’m used to it now. This new attribute thing is great to work with when you get used to it.

    –Joanna

    in reply to: termination sign with dash #21713

    Thank you. I had read that and done it that way, but it looked so strange that I wanted to make sure.

    in reply to: 3 asterisks #21711

    Hi Betty,

    The horizontal line for the 3 asterisks is an old EBAE format that is no longer valid because EBAE formatting is no longer used. I can’t find any specific mention of it in the new guidelines. And here is why they are called guidelines. I would suggest the following.

    First, blank line usage for the change of context is the same. If the change of context is at line 24 or line 25, the material resumes on line 2 of the next braille page, or line 3 if there is a running head. If the change of context falls in the middle of the braille page, you have a blank line where it occurs.

    I think you could populate the blank line with the three centered asterisks, because that is essentially what the print does. I don’t think you would need additional blank lines before and after the asterisks.

    –Joanna

    in reply to: BF 2011 poetry in religious materials #21701

    No, I’m just trying to understand the guidelines.

    in reply to: BF 2011 poetry in religious materials #21700

    Are you actually transcribing this now?

    –Joanna

    in reply to: BF 2011 quote in a note margins #21705

    I’m also wondering if 16.5.4 pertains to all displayed material within notes and not just to quotes.

    in reply to: BF 1997 – Graphic attached to table #21696

    Back again. Upon re-reading your original statement, I now see that you did attempt to explain how this print works. The problem is that it is still difficult for me to understand and I think most general readers would have the same reaction. And you do mention references to the text, so it is very apparent that you have used the text itself as a resource. I suggest the following.

    The transcriber can only transcribe what he is she sees. The graphic and the table should be transcribed separately. The graphic should follow the appropriate guidelines and best practices for graphics of this nature.

    For the table, I suggest that you determine what the column headings are for the table, including any that may be repeated from the graphic itself. Observe the row headings on the left and consider the texture porphyritic that appears to apply to both the Intrusive and Extrusive origins. Consider the wide table stratetgies given in the 2007 Update, possibly listed table formats or stairstep. I think all the TN needs to say is that the table follows very closely after the graphic in print. The braille reader will have to examine both very carefully and refer back and forth just as the print reader does in order to discern the actual relationship. All the transcriber can do is to describe and present what is on the page as accurately as possibly. The transcriber’s responsbility does not include explaining it, especially in this case.

    –Joanna

    in reply to: BF 1997 – Graphic attached to table #21695

    Typo. I mean that THIS is what you mean when you say the graphic is attached to the table.

    –Joanna

    in reply to: Plus and minus signs #21693

    I have conferred with Lynnette Taylor on this and she confirms that you can just use the plus or minus sign spaced before the number. The Nemeth indicators and notation are not necessary here because these are just simple positive and negative numbers and calucations are not taking place.

    –Joanna

    in reply to: BF 2011 poetry in religious materials #21702

    I don’t understand what it confusing you. I think the sample shows what verse format is and the instructions say exactly what to do with the verse number. Again, this is a hypothetical question. The guidelines are the starting point to applying formatting to print text and the application of guidelines depends on what the print text looks like and how it is intended to be read. I have said this before. I need to see real print text, otherwise I can only guess here. I also do not see why you raise the issue of adding a blank line. The indention of the paragraph in cell 3 certainly shows that it’s a new paragraph.

    Please feel free to clarify your question.

    –Joanna

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